How Does Moon Dust Exist Without Weathering?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the existence of dust on the moon despite the absence of weathering processes. Participants explore various sources of lunar dust, including meteorite impacts and the accumulation of material over time, while questioning the mechanisms behind dust formation and retention in the moon's weak gravitational field.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the moon accumulates dust through its gravitational pull on nearby particles and from meteorite impacts.
  • Questions arise regarding the nature and origin of the dust, with some participants expressing skepticism about the amount of dust that could be generated by meteorite impacts.
  • Concerns are raised about how meteorites can create fine dust, considering the moon's weak gravity and the potential for small particles to escape into space.
  • Some participants argue that other celestial bodies, like Mars and Venus, likely have dust, countering claims that the moon is unique in this regard.
  • Participants note that the dust layer on the moon is thin and can be observed during lunar landings.
  • There is mention of a constant influx of dust on Earth from various sources, including micrometeorites and comet debris, prompting further questions about the origins of dust in general.
  • One participant speculates about the relationship between dust accumulation and the origins of water on Earth, suggesting a broader context for the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the sources and mechanisms of lunar dust formation, with no consensus reached on the validity of the claims or the extent of dust accumulation on the moon compared to other celestial bodies.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight uncertainties regarding the specific processes that lead to dust formation and retention, as well as the definitions of dust and its sources in space.

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How can there be dust on the moon if there is no weathering whatsoever? I'm going insane over it.
 
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The moon sweeps up some the dust near Earth with its gravitational pull, and meteroite impacts would also create dust.

Also rememeber it's had a very long time to accumulate said dust. :smile:
 
Originally posted by Hurkyl
The moon sweeps up some the dust near Earth with its gravitational pull, and meteroite impacts would also create dust.

What kind of dust is floating around aimlessly in space, and what's there to make that dust? Yes some barren places in space there is the intersteller thingy but there isn't enough for all that sand on the moon

Metorite impacts- How many metorites does it take to grind rock into a fine powder? Yes, the moons been aroud for a while (well more than awhile). Metorites are of pretty much iron and other heavy metals. How does it get grinded into a fine powder? When the metorite hits if it shatters into tiny pieces the smallest ones fly out of the moons weak gravity, there goes 98.9999% of your dust. Plus, on the Earth where metorites hit there isn't any dust. Also on the Earth due to the weathering the small particles would be turned into sand, much quicker. No other planet or moon has dust on it. Why is the moon so special?
 
Originally posted by Mk
What kind of dust is floating around aimlessly in space, and what's there to make that dust?

What do you think formed the Earth or any of the other planets?

No other planet or moon has dust on it.

How do you know that? We've only landed on one moon, and both Mars and Venus certainly had dust.
 
The dust is only a thin layer too don't forget. You can see this if you watch the moon landings as the lander approaches touchdown.

The Earth has a constant shower of dust falling on it too. If you examine the sludge in a drain with a microscope you can see small bits of micrometorite within it.
 
How does it get grinded into a fine powder? When the metorite hits if it shatters into tiny pieces the smallest ones fly out of the moons weak gravity, there goes 98.9999% of your dust.

We are talking lots and lots of dust here, so there is still plenty to stay in the moons gravitational field. And we are also talking thousnds of meteorite strikes aswell, it all adds up.
 
Originally posted by Adrian Baker
The Earth has a constant shower of dust falling on it too. If you examine the sludge in a drain with a microscope you can see small bits of micrometorite within it.

Where's all that dust coming from? Hasn't the dust been sucked into the Earth's or any other object's gravity over the billions of years?
 
Originally posted by Mk
Where's all that dust coming from? Hasn't the dust been sucked into the Earth's or any other object's gravity over the billions of years?

I'm not an expert on this, but a great deal of it comes from the debris left behind when comets pass by. At the last pass of Halley's Comet it was measured to be losing about 30 tons of mass per second when a probe from Earth approached it.
Look up into the sky on any night and you will see several shooting stars - usually debris from Comet's tails, burning up in the atmosphere.
Comets are constantly coming towards the Sun from the Oort cloud - each one leaving some debris as it goes past.
Bigger meteorites make it to the Earth's surface somewhere every day.

There will be others on this board who can give a better account than mine above - I'd be interested in some facts and figures, or good links about this, if anyone has some.

Anyway, if the dust problem puzzles you, ask yourself where all the water in the Earth's Oceans came from...!
 

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