How to Correctly Calculate Velocity in a Two-Dimensional Elastic Collision?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of a golf ball involved in a two-dimensional elastic collision. The original poster presents a scenario where two golf balls collide, with given initial and final velocities, and seeks to determine the unknown velocity of one of the balls.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of momentum and energy principles to solve for the unknown velocity. Some participants question the necessity of assuming conservation of energy in this context, while others seek clarification on the interpretation of the results.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering guidance on the application of conservation laws. There is an exploration of different interpretations regarding the assumptions made about the collision, and the original poster is encouraged to provide more details about their calculations.

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Participants note that the problem involves two unknowns and two equations from conservation of momentum, suggesting that the setup may not require conservation of energy to find a solution.

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I have a problem with this question,

1. Two rolling golf balls of the same mass collide. The velocity of one ball is initially 2 m/s [E] After the collision, the velocities of the balls are 2.49 m/s [62.8° North of West] and 2.37 m/s [69.2° South Of East]. What are the magnitude and direction of the unknown velocity?

Basicall I did:

For x component:


V1 + V2 = V1'cos(180°-62.8°) + V2'cos(360°-69.2°)

I solved for V2

I did the same for the y component then I took the x and y component values and did the pythagoras theorem to get the angle and value...The value at the back of the book is 3 m/s and moving W for the initial velocity of the other ball...My answer was 4.7 m/s [20° South of West]

Whats my mistake?
 
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You certainly have the right idea. If you show more work I might be able to tell you where the problem is.
 
I've got two answers and one of them is at the back of book. How do I know which ball moves where?
 
Are you assuming conservation of energy (perfectly elastic collision)? If so you can use V12+ V22= V1'2+ V2'2.
 
Originally posted by HallsofIvy
Are you assuming conservation of energy (perfectly elastic collision)? If so you can use V12+ V22= V1'2+ V2'2.

It's not necessary here.
He's got two unknowns, and two equations from conservation of momentum. The only unknowns are the x and y components of one ball's inital velocity, and the other inital and both of the final velocities are given.
 
Im assuming its a perfectly elastic collision since its two golf balls
 

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