University of Chicago Study: The Stupid are Outbreeding the Smart

Carlos Hernandez

See http://neko.mi.org/~tawollen/humor/msg02033.html

Regards,

Carlos Hernandez

Evo

Yeah, well since this is a joke...made up, not real..just for humor, what's your point?

Monique

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Carlos, it is time for yourself to become intelligent and stop linking us to not so clever sites.

You too have been using the mechanism of overwhelming the smart with the stupid..

Carlos Hernandez

Insults/name-calling is not a valid argument.

Regarding the article, I was curious as to whether it was legit or just a joke. If it is a joke, then we can disregard it. I did do a check at the University mentioned and couldn't find the name of the research leader or the study mentioned.

Regards,

Carlos Hernandez

Evo

Carlos, may I suggest that before you post something as a fact, that you actually verify it?

Carlos Hernandez

I tried to verify this story, but could not find anything. But, I thought I would post it anyway and let you decide for yourself if it is valid or not.

Evo

What, in the hopes that someone might actually think this was real?

Monique

That is not name-calling. My observation is very valid.

I posted:
Carlos, it is time for yourself to become intelligent and stop linking us to not so clever sites.

You tell me, is that a valid argument or not? 1. yes, it is not a very clever site (the fact that it says 'humor' in the URL should give that away), 2. yes, you could have been intelligent enough to recognize that OR post a disclaimer that you'd like to know if the link is valid.

I posted:
You too have been using the mechanism of overwhelming the smart with the stupid..

See above.

russ_watters

Dead link for me.

Zero

Don't feel bad...you would have to be terminally stupid to think it was anything but a sad attempt at humor.

dtae

i think it was posted on the theonion.com a month back or so.

although it is humor, i would venture to guess there is some truth behind it (probably why some consider it kind of funny). However, I see that Evo may have some evidence to the contrary.

assuming there is a significant descrepancy between the reproduction rates of "educated" and "non-educated" we are left with a few things to consider:

education level is certainly heritable at the cultural level, but this variation is not as limited as genetic variation. so i would consider a society that values education and the search for the truth (in the form of dollars and values) one that would combat this possible problem.

if we want to limit teenage pregnancy which presumably produces "less valuable" members of society, we are left with some alternatives. it has been shown (margo daly and wilson and i believe some other researchers) that if life expectancy in an area increases the age of first reproduction and first menstration will also increase.

so the solution is simple: provide more for societies education, health care and well being and we get less reproduction rate variation, and happier citizens

or we can just use eugenics (j/k)

cswhisper

I don't know Carlos? However you are living proof that the fear that the stupid are outbreeding the smart maybe true. [8)]

cswhisper

I'm sure there has to be moderators here, why don't you just ban him. He's obviously a troll.

troll


He has nothing intelligent to add to the forum or he would have already done so instead of flooding the board with multiple threads about IQ.

nautica

Even if it were true, it would be a mute point. The human brain does not need to evolve for us to become more educated as a society. Education can not be inherited only learned. Even the brains of the most educated have plenty of room for addition knowlegde.

Nautica

dtae

assuming that their is no heritable biological bases for "intellect", there is still the concern that through cultural evolution much of the "intellect" of a child may be determined by their childhood environment.

Your point is well taken though, but it implies that we can just funnel more dough into schools to make people smarter.

I wonder if it would be more productive to start at an even lower level, trying to create an environment where those ill-achivers can take on the characteristics of the middle class we so value.

...some socialism

nautica

I did not say that intelligence could not be inherited I said education could not. You can have one without the other.

Nautica

Nereid

PF members,

This is one of the most deadly serious topics imaginable. The hereditability of desirable characteristics - eugenics - was, arguably, a key factor behind the Hitler Nazi agenda. It's absolutely a key plank in the racist agenda. If you don't know the history here, please go read up on it.

Nereid.