What impact does agriculture have on natural competition and human well-being?

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The discussion explores the impact of agriculture on natural competition and human well-being, focusing on the relationship between artificial adaptations and inborn evolutionary changes. It examines theoretical implications of agricultural practices on human evolution and survival over time.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that natural adaptation cannot be reversed, suggesting that any changes imposed by agriculture represent maladaptation rather than de-evolution.
  • Others propose that agriculture has fundamentally altered the landscape of survivability, allowing humans to thrive without the same evolutionary pressures that existed prior to agricultural development.
  • A participant highlights the irony that while agriculture has led to prosperous civilizations, it may also alienate natural competition and negatively impact human health.
  • There is a distinction made between "natural" (inborn) and "unnatural" (artificial) adaptations, with some suggesting that agriculture exemplifies the latter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of adaptation and evolution in the context of agriculture, with no consensus reached on whether agriculture represents a positive or negative impact on natural competition and human well-being.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on definitions of "natural" versus "unnatural" adaptations and the assumptions regarding the long-term effects of agricultural practices on human evolution.

Which artifice will fastest outpace inborn adaptations?

  • Population control

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  • Asexuality

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  • Automation

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  • Mass destruction

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  • Artificial intelligence

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  • Genetic engineering

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  • Enhanced longevity

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  • Eugenics law

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  • Pharmacopoeia

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  • Virtual reality

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Which artifice will fastest outpace inborn adaptations?
 
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None of them. You can't reverse natural adaptation. You can have continued adaptation in the opposite direction (like if it suddenly became desirable to be a lump of primordial slime) but there is no such thing as deevolution.
 
The reversal of natural adaptation is imposed maladaptation. Such de-evolution would lead to the extermination of the species without artificial supports.
 
But that is not deevolution. Evolution is movement towards local highs of survivability. All you do is change the landscape of survivability. You do not reverse the process itself. Do you see the difference?
 
Yes, I think I see. What I would differentiate is not evolution from de-evolution, but "natural" (inborn) from "unnatural" (artificial) adaptation.

Which artifice will fastest outpace inborn adaptations?
 
Agriculture.
 
Please explain - junk food, hybrid corn, radiated meat?
 
Not quite. I am saying that the discovery of agriculture itself has already greatly outpaced natural selectional pressures. With agriculture, man is immediately freed from the typical requirement to evolve lean, mean hunters, and with time, the high sense of reliability agriculture provides lessens the requirement for tolerant physiques. If after a few million years of agriculture, we decide to suddenly stop, we would not be able to survive in the same competitive niche that we once did, that we would still be in if we didn't begin farming.
 
It seems ironic that agriculture, an immediate adaptation toward man's prosperous civilizations and increased survival, would cause him to alienate natural competition, the health of his crops and eventually his own well being.
 

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