Finding the Transformation Matrix for Linear Transformations in R^3

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The discussion revolves around finding the transformation matrix for linear transformations in the vector space R^3, specifically focusing on a transformation A and how to express it in relation to another transformation B given in a different basis. Participants are seeking assistance with the steps involved in this process, including converting between bases and constructing the appropriate matrices.

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  • One participant presents a transformation A defined by the equation A(x1,x2,x3)=(2*x1+x2, x1+x2+2*x3, -x2+x3) and asks for help in finding the transformation matrix in the standard basis.
  • Another participant identifies the standard basis as (1,0,0), (0,1,0), (0,0,1) and suggests that the transformation matrix for A needs to be found first.
  • There is a discussion about the need to transform matrix T from one basis to another, with a formula provided for the transformation process: B = G * T * S, where G and S are matrices for changing bases.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the steps involved in finding the transformation matrix for A and transforming T between bases.
  • A later reply outlines a method for finding the transformation matrix by calculating the image of the basis vectors under transformation A and expressing them in terms of the new basis.
  • Another participant proposes a transformation matrix for A but expresses uncertainty about the subsequent steps for transforming T.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to find the transformation matrix for A and the process of transforming T, but there is uncertainty regarding the correctness of the proposed transformation matrix and the steps involved in the transformation process.

Contextual Notes

Some participants have expressed difficulty with the concept of transforming matrices between bases, indicating potential gaps in understanding the underlying principles or methods required for these transformations.

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In a vector space R^3, is given a transformation A with a subscript A(x1,x2,x3)=(2*x1+x2, x1+x2+2*x3, -x2+x3).
Linear transformation B has in the basis; (1,1,1), (1,0,1), (1,-1,0) a matrix T:

[-1 2 3]
[ 1 1 0]
[ 0 1 1]
Write down a matrix which belongs to the transformation AB in the standard basis of the vector space R^3.

I just can't solve this problem. Please help!
 
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Hmm, the standard basis is (1,0,0) (0,1,0) (0,0,1)
You will need first to find the transformation matrix for A.

Then you will need transform T, to a matrix to change from the standard basis to the standard basis. You do this by multiplying it by the matrix to change from the given basis to the standard basis, and then multiplying the result by the matrix to change from the standard basis to the given basis.

B = G * T * S

G: Matrix to change from the given basis to the standard basis
S: Matrix to change from the standard basis to the given basis

All you need to then is to multiply the 2 matrix.

If you need more complete explanition on any step, let me know.
 
Yes, a more complete explanation would be very helpful.
Thanks, for the reply!
 
Well, at which step does the problem lie?
 
You will need first to find the transformation matrix for A.

How do i do that?

Then you will need transform T, to a matrix to change from the standard basis to the standard basis

From the standard basis to the standard basis?

I actually have problems with transforming a matrix from one basis to another.
 
To find a transformation matrix:

you calculate the image of the vectors of the basis:
so for example A(e1) = (2,1,0)
and then write it as the product of the vectors of the basis you transfering to:
(2,1,0) = 2e1 + e2 + 0 e3
And last write it as a matrix, where this would fill a row, in the matrix. You will get a 3x3 Matrix, because you have the 3 basis vectors.

To find the Matrix to transform from a basis to another, you do the same, but just express the vectors of the matrix you want to transform to as vectors of the matrix you transform from.
 
I think i got it now. So the transformation matrix A is : [2 1 0 ]
[1 1 -1]
[0 2 1]

Is that correct?

Then you will need transform T, to a matrix to change from the standard basis to the standard basis. You do this by multiplying it by the matrix to change from the given basis to the standard basis, and then multiplying the result by the matrix to change from the standard basis to the given basis. B = G * T * S G: Matrix to change from the given basis to the standard basis S: Matrix to change from the standard basis to the given basis

I'm not sure how to do that.
 

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