What Is the Minimum Speed Needed for a Particle to Stay on a Rippled Surface?

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The discussion revolves around a particle moving on a rippled surface described by the equation h(x) = d Cos[k x]. The problem focuses on determining the minimum speed required for the particle to remain in contact with the surface while under the influence of gravity.

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  • The original poster considers the relationship between speed and the curvature of the surface, suggesting a need for a simpler method than the complex formula they found. Some participants discuss the significance of boundary conditions and the role of centripetal acceleration at the crest of the wave.

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Participants are exploring the conditions under which the particle will leave the surface, with some suggesting that the maximum curvature point is critical. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions regarding the particle's motion and the implications of speed at different points on the wave.

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There is a mention of the complexity of the general formula and the desire to find a solution without extensive calculations. The discussion also hints at the possibility of the particle leaving the surface at points other than the crest, depending on its speed.

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Consider a particle moving without friction on a rippled surface, given by the equation h(x) = d Cos[k x]. Gravity acts down in the negative h direction. If the particle starts at x=0 with a speed in the x direction, for what value of v will the particle stay on the surface at all times?

The answer is if v<= Sqrt[g/(k^2 d)].

I found a general formula that involves x but is too complicated to solve. There must be another way to do this without using a calculator. Thanks!

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Look at the boundary conditions.

The point where the the particle will leave the surface is the point with the largest curvature. You need to solve for the required speed at the crest of the wave, and it will hold for all other points on the wave.
 
How do you know that the particle will leave the surface at the crest of the wave?
 
At the crest, the centripetal acceleration needed to maintain contact is the highest.

It can leave at another point, but it has to be going faster than the crest's max speed to do so.
 

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