Two questions about space (new guy)

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The discussion revolves around two questions related to space observation and the sensory experience of astronauts. The first question concerns the visibility of galaxies through the Hubble telescope and whether the view would be consistent regardless of the telescope's pointing direction. The second question explores the potential existence of an odor in space, prompted by an astronaut's account of a smell encountered after opening an airlock on the MIR space station.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the view through the Hubble telescope would be similar regardless of direction, referencing the Hubble's Deep Field images and the Big Bang theory's implications about the universe's structure.
  • Others express skepticism about the possibility of detecting an odor in space due to the low density of particles at high altitudes.
  • One participant elaborates on the nature of odors, indicating that they are composed of particles that can be recognized by the human nose.
  • A later reply speculates on the potential sources of the odor described by the astronaut, suggesting that materials on the MIR's surface could have contributed to the smell, possibly due to cosmic rays and the accumulation of particulates during spacewalks.
  • There is mention of previous American missions identifying carbonization on astronauts' helmets, linked to high-energy cosmic rays, which raises further questions about the interaction of materials in space.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the questions posed. While some support the idea of a consistent view of galaxies, others question the feasibility of detecting odors in space, leading to multiple competing views on both topics.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of cosmic observations and the physical properties of space, as well as unresolved questions regarding the effects of cosmic rays on materials used in spacecraft.

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Hi Guys!

Brand new to the forum and believe me, I'm not here to teach but to learn. I have a couple of questions and I hope they don't sound too foolish.

First question: When looking deep into space with the Hubble telescope we are able to see thousands of galaxies receding away to the limit of the Hubble's resolving power. Is/would the view be the similar regardless of where we point the telescope?

Second: A couple of years ago I was listening to a radio show that featured an American astronaut that had visited the MIR space station. He commented that when an airlock was opened that had previously been open to space, he smelled an odor that was very similar to the ash from a fire that had burned out in a fire place. I haven't been able to stop thinking about that comment ever since. Is there an odor to space? Would it be caused by the sun?
 
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(1) Yes. The Hubble's Deep Field North and Deep Field South photos show this.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap980607.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap020629.html

It also makes sense based on Big Bang theory (distribution of matter throughout the universe with no center or edge to the universe).

(2) Hmm. I had not heard that one. But I would think there are too few particles at that altitude to have a detectable odor.
 
Odor is particles which are shaped in such a way that our noses can recognise them.
 
Originally posted by Michael Gray
Hi Guys!

Brand new to the forum and believe me, I'm not here to teach but to learn. I have a couple of questions and I hope they don't sound too foolish.

First question: When looking deep into space with the Hubble telescope we are able to see thousands of galaxies receding away to the limit of the Hubble's resolving power. Is/would the view be the similar regardless of where we point the telescope?

Second: A couple of years ago I was listening to a radio show that featured an American astronaut that had visited the MIR space station. He commented that when an airlock was opened that had previously been open to space, he smelled an odor that was very similar to the ash from a fire that had burned out in a fire place. I haven't been able to stop thinking about that comment ever since. Is there an odor to space? Would it be caused by the sun?

A couple of years ago I was listening to a radio show that featured an American astronaut that had visited the MIR space station. He commented that when an airlock was opened that had previously been open to space, he smelled an odor that was very similar to the ash from a fire that had burned out in a fire place.

Did not Mir have an onboard fire at some stage in its long history?
If this is not so then, its quite probable that even though there is no Oxygen in Space, the Mir craft is made from metals, metals melt and carbon filements may have been collected on the outer surface of Mir due to the High Energy Cosmic rays that Mir was exposed to over time. As astronauts come and go from outside spacewalks, their inside airlock would have accumilated many fragments, when the airlock to the inner vessel was opened oxygen from the outerchamber would rush in as the airlock is released, and so the particulates from inside the outer airlock would transfer into the main vessel.

I believe that American missions identified some sort of carbonization?..to astronauts helmets as crew members made reports of 'arc-ing-lights' inside Spaceshuttle and or Skylab missions. Further investigation to the crews space-helmets revealed substantial damage, later attributed to the influx of High Energy Cosmic rays,
Nature seems to have a 'first' in High energy cosmic welding!
 
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