Kinematics of a thrown rock. Calculate speed

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The discussion revolves around the kinematics of a rock thrown at an initial speed of 25 m/s at a 50-degree angle. Participants are exploring the time it takes for the rock's speed to reach angles of +30 and -30 degrees relative to the horizontal.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the components of the velocity vector and attempt to set up equations based on trigonometric relationships. There are questions about the application of formulas and the use of calculators in solving the equations.

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Some participants have provided their attempts at solving the problem, while others have questioned the correctness of the formulas used. There is a mix of guidance and requests for clarification, indicating an ongoing exploration of the problem without a clear consensus on the solution.

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Participants mention the influence of gravity and air friction, and there are references to homework guidelines regarding the use of calculators. The discussion reflects a learning environment where participants are encouraged to engage with the problem-solving process actively.

DR33
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A rock is thrown at 25 m/s in a 50 degree angle (horizontal). At what time will the speed reach an angle of + / - 30 degree (horizontal) ??

answer is 1.01s and 2.91s

thx u
 
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Pls Post your try
Hint:Write vector Equation for motion
 
lol...
 
lol.. posted at wrong place

my try:

Vx = Vxcos Theta
= 25cos50
= 16.07 m/s

Vy = Vysin(theta)t
= (25sin50)t - 4.9t²
= 19.15t - 4.9t²


Vy / Vx = tan30

therefore.. 4.9t² - 19.15t + 9.28 = 0... doesn't give the right answer :( what Do I do wrong??
 
is that equation possible to-do without a Calculator ?
 
obvs. not.. look at the answers.. 1.01 & 2.91 s..
If u can get those numbers without a calculator, good luck
 
Gimme a min on that one ;)...
 
You have applied wrong formula for vy
 
I really appreciate your help.. but would you mind explaining instead of giving hints?
 
  • #10
dang (Should have payed attention to my math teacher...)LOL


well i know there's gravity 9.8m/s, air friction,

so vector is 25m/s at 50(Deg)angle
how long it would take for 30(Deg)angle hmmm...
 
  • #11
and the formula I applied is actually Vy = Vysin(theta)t - gt²/2

I just forgot the last part
 
  • #12
didnt your mom tell you not to use Calculators in math ?
 
  • #13
gimme 10mins tops and all figure out the Anwser without a Calculator ;)
 
  • #14
Here u have given your try i appreciate and on this network which is an interactive one.

we try to inculcate the habit of problem solving by the poster itself
giving u the answer would defy the process of learning

Still you are welcomed and Pls wait while i give u complete detail
 
  • #15
k.. anyone help?
 
  • #16
ok thanks a bunch
 
  • #17
Sorry DR33 but i think he means your on your own...:(
 
  • #18
[tex]v_x=25\cos{\theta}=25\cos50[/tex]
[tex]v_y=25\sin50 - 9.8t[/tex]

Now from gien pro
[tex]\frac{v_y}{v_x}=\pm tan30[/tex]
 
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  • #19
i got rejected in a Physics class, seriouly i would not comment on it but, its not helping someone who is dedicating his time on this forum for help... :|
 
  • #20
ok so therefore

Vx = 16,07 m/s
Vy = 19.15 - 4.9t

Vx / Vy = tan30... solve for t..

doesnt give the right answer :((

answers are 1.01 and 2.91
 
  • #21
n/m, i used 4.9..

wow, thanks man
I appreciate

l8er
 
  • #22
Originally posted by DR33
ok so therefore

Vx = 16,07 m/s
Vy = 19.15 - 4.9t

Vx / Vy = tan30... solve for t..

doesnt give the right answer :((

answers are 1.01 and 2.91

What look at it again it is not 4.9 its 9.8
 
  • #23
Please post further homework help questions here, in the homework help forum -- not in the general physics forum. Thank you.

- Warren
 
  • #24
um were did my perpetual motion thread go ? (Sorry i am new)
 
  • #25
It went into the Theory Development forum, where it belongs.

- Warren
 
  • #26
ok thx, but its not a theory it works ;)
 
  • #27
Dont worry u will enjoy that section more than anything
 

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