Can I Achieve Immortality to Witness a Type 3 Civilisation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of achieving immortality, particularly in the context of witnessing the advancement of humanity to a Type 3 civilization. Participants explore various approaches to prolonging life, including dietary changes, cryonics, and the implications of technological advancements on mortality.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for their consciousness to be immortal to witness future advancements, mentioning dietary changes and potential cryonics as methods to achieve this.
  • Another participant raises concerns about the reliability of technology in preserving life, citing the possibility of accidents during cryogenic procedures.
  • A different participant acknowledges the risk of destruction but seeks ways to minimize that probability.
  • One participant suggests that memories are chemical in nature and expresses hope for living forever, linking this to the potential for a Type 3 civilization.
  • Another participant recommends visiting the Immortality Institute for better advice and discusses the transhumanist perspective on immortality, while questioning the validity of the Type I/II/III civilization classification.
  • A participant introduces a theory about the degradation of tissues over time, comparing it to the deterioration of video copies, and suggests that finding certain chemicals could extend life significantly.
  • A later reply thanks the previous participant for the suggestion about the Immortality Institute, indicating interest in the community.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility of achieving immortality and the reliability of technology in this pursuit. There is no consensus on whether the goal is realistic, and multiple competing perspectives remain on the implications of technological advancements and biological processes.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various assumptions about technology, biological processes, and the nature of consciousness without resolving the complexities involved in these topics. The conversation reflects a mix of speculative ideas and personal aspirations.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in transhumanism, longevity research, cryonics, and the philosophical implications of immortality may find this discussion relevant.

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I am 22 years old. I would like my consciousness to be immortal in the sense of living at least long enough to be able to witness the birth of our progress to a Type 3 civilisation. Hopefully this would include ascending to a higher machine collective intelligence along the way. Before Dr. Kaku gave this this hope, I just assumed I was going to die anyway so I may as well enjoy the life I have while I have it. Gradually I am trying to improve my diet to be lower in saturated fats, higher in antioxidants and the like. I figure that my goal should be to above all keep my brain in as good a condition as I possibly can given the resources I have until such time as good technology is available to do the job for me. I am thinking of going on a caloric restiction diet soon and researching ways to have my brain frozen should disaster strike. I have been reluctant to start exercising again because I do not want to speed up my metabolism.

Does anyone have any advice for me on this matter? Do people even agree that mine is a realistic goal?
 
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No amount of Technological expertese can allow for the interjection of Chaotic accidents?

I can imagine the worker who due to a pay-dispute..or just a memory lapse of concentration, say forgeting to wear the proper cryogenic gloves?..accidentally dropping your brain(or anyone else's!) onto the floor during a routine M.O.T!

You have to take it on trust that civilization would evolve to a Futurama, where the 'trust' is financially viable, and fair!
 
True - there is always a chance I am going to be destroyed - the best I can do is to reduce the probability. I am open to suggestions on how best to minimise the probability.
 
Well...

The memories in our brain all ALL just chemical bubbles...(arent they? I'm pretty sure they are...) Anyway, you may live to see the day when a type 3 (?) civilization comes about. I hope to live forever instead of just passing away, like some forgotten memory.
 
Originally posted by JLawrenceIV
Does anyone have any advice for me on this matter?

I would advise to visit the Immortality Institute, where they have a community of people with similar goals; they'll be able to advise you a lot better on this.

In general, a lot of thought has been put into the sort of questions you bring up from the viewpoint of transhumanism.

From your mentioning frozen heads, it seems you have already looked into cryonics.

Do people even agree that mine is a realistic goal?

Probably. I don't really agree with the "Type I/II/III/IV"- concept, but that shouldn't matter.

I don't think accidents will necessarily stop people from being immortal. Immortality would require a pretty high level of technology, and that technology should be able to eliminate most sources of accidents as well.
 
Immortality...

Our tissues constantly change ...
as it changes, it gets replaced ...
as it gets replaced...like the von neumann probes, it makes copies of itself ...
and as it makes copies of itself, the quality begins to deter...
for example, if we make copies after copies of video records using the same video, we would get an imperfect copy of the video in the end.

so this theory goes the same for our tissues...
now..
oxidants play the part in deterring the quality of our tissues...
however, there are certain chemicals which play the active role of doing this..
anti oxidants just arent enough...
if these chemicals are found...and the 'anti' of these chemicals are found...
i guess...another 300-400 years may not be impossible...
if you find the chemical..
tell me..
;)
 
I would advise to visit the Immortality Institute, where they have a community of people with similar goals; they'll be able to advise you a lot better on this.

thanks for the link that helps me
 

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