Determine the point at which the electric field is zero

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The problem involves determining the point at which the electric field is zero between two charges, -2.50 C and 6.00 C, that are 1.00 m apart. Participants are exploring the calculations and reasoning behind the setup of the electric field equations.

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  • Participants discuss breaking down the electric field contributions from each charge and setting their sum to zero. There are attempts to use the quadratic formula to solve the resulting equation, but some express confusion over their calculations and the expected results.

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Two charges -2.50 C and 6.00 C are 1.00 m apart, determine the point at which the electric field is zero.

I thought this problem would be easy but I must be doing something ridiculously wrong because I've been stuck on this problem for a about an hour...

I broke up the problem into E1 & E2 using E = kq/r^2, and replacing r^2 in E1 with x^2 and r^2 in E2 with (x+1.00m)^2 and tried to solve using the quadratic formula without success..

Any hints?

thanks in advance :)
 
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Everything you did is correct.
You use E1+E2=0, use your xlike you said and
solve. Try it again.
(I get about 1.91 m)
 
hmmmm..

It's been a long day so maybe I'm making some stupid mistake, but I'm still unable to come up with anything near the answer.. The book shows (1.82m to the left of the negative charge) as the answer, and you're at ~1.91m, very much closer than my answer.


Here's what I did:

E1=KQ/x^2
E2=KQ/(x+1)^2

E_net = E1 + E2

E_net = 6KQ/x^2 - 2.50KQ/(x+1.00)^2

2.50/(x+1.00m)^2 = 6/x^2

2.50x^2 = 6(x+1.00m)^2

2.50x^2 = 6x^2 + 12.00x + 6.00

6x^2 - 2.50x^2 + 12.00x + 6.00 = 0

3.50x^2 + 12.00x + 6.00 = 0

-12.00 +- sqrt (12.00)^2 - 4(3.50)(6.00) / 2(3.50)

-12.00 +- sqrt (144)-(84) / 7.00

-12.00 +- 7.75 / 7.00

= -0.607 and -2.82 which I believe is completely wrong...


Am I making a stupid calc error? Am I not finishing the problem? or did I just completely approach it wrong?

Thanks for the hints in advance.. :)
 
Oops... your book is correct I made a calc mistake
by getting delta = sqrt(100+180) and it's supposed
to be sqrt(100+140). Which gives you 1.82.

Anyway, the electric field will be 0 farther (1+x) from the
6 C than from the -2.5 C (x) so you've simply put
the distances in reverse in your field strenght equations.

Live long and prosper.
 
Ahhhhhh... I came out with 1.82m now. Thanks!
 
oooride,
I had that exact problem to work out too. We must be using the same book, "Physics for Scientist and Engineers", 6th edition by Serway and Jewett?

I got stuck on this one until the prof went over it in class.
After you posted it here, I went through to see if I can solve it on my own, and I GOT STUCK AGAIN!

Thanks for the review reminder.
 
Originally posted by paul11273
oooride,
I had that exact problem to work out too. We must be using the same book, "Physics for Scientist and Engineers", 6th edition by Serway and Jewett?

I got stuck on this one until the prof went over it in class.
After you posted it here, I went through to see if I can solve it on my own, and I GOT STUCK AGAIN!

Thanks for the review reminder.


Yup that's the book, except I'm using the fifth edition instead of the sixth.

The book's title is "Physics for Scientists and Engineers with Modern Physics, Volume 2, by Serway and Beichner".
 

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