Finding a parametric equation for y = f(x)

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The discussion revolves around finding parametric equations for a given curve, specifically the curve defined by y = f(x). Participants explore how to derive parametric forms from standard equations, particularly in the context of a textbook problem that requires parametrization over a specified interval.

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  • Participants discuss various methods for parametrizing curves, questioning the rationale behind specific choices of parametrization and the implications of domain restrictions. There is a focus on understanding the reasoning behind different parametrizations and whether they stem from systematic approaches or trial and error.

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Several participants have provided insights into potential parametrizations, with some suggesting straightforward methods while others delve into more complex transformations. The conversation reflects a productive exchange of ideas, with participants clarifying concepts and exploring different interpretations of the problem.

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There is mention of a specific textbook problem that lacks detailed instructions, which has led to confusion regarding the expected approach. Additionally, the discussion includes constraints related to the domain of the parameter t, which influences the choice of parametrization.

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I've searched the web for information on Parametric Equations, and most of them only give me information on how to find y = f(x) when given y = y(t) and x = x(t).

Is there any sort of method for doing the reverse? I'm told that there are theoretically an infinite number of parametric equations for a given curve, but how do you go about finding any of them?

One of the questions in our textbook says:

Parametrize the curve y = f(x), x between [a,b].

No further information was given. I think I need to know this in order to do the questions that come afterwards. For example, [tex]y^2=x^3[/tex], from (4,8) to (1,1). The answer ends up being y = (2-t)^3 and x = (2-t)^2. The solution manual gives me no explanations as to how they arrived at that answer.

Help?
 
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there are an infinite number of parametrizations. one easy choice is the following:

given a curve f(x)=y

let y=f(t) and x=t.

this is a sort of trivial parametrization. there are lots more. what exactly are you looking for?
 
I'm basically looking for the thought process behind choosing a certain type of parametrization based on a restricted domain for t. The example I gave in my question:

[tex]y^2=x^3[/tex]

The question restricted the domain of t to be between 0 and 1. And one of the answers ended up being [tex]y(t) = (2-t)^3[/tex] and [tex]x(t) = (2-t)^2[/tex].

How did they come up with that? Is it just sort of guessing and checking?
 
Well I would be incliend to say:
[tex]y^2=x^3=t[/tex]
So
[tex]y=t^{\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]
[tex]x=t^{\frac{1}{3}}[/tex]
but that can be a bit ugly, so the people replaced by [tex]t'=t^6[/tex] so that the exponents are integers.

With the new [tex]t[/tex] you get
[tex]y=t^3[/tex]
[tex]x=t^2[/tex]

The [tex]2-[/tex] is added for the final values, but that could also be done by chaning the range for [tex]t[/tex].
 
NateTG is, as usual, exactly right.

There exist many "parametrizations" for any given curve. Given that y2= x3, the simplest to find is to set
y2= x3= t and solve for x and y separately.

If you don't like fractions (and who does?) you might think instead
( )2= ( )3 and not that those will be "obviously" equal if you put t3 in the first parenthesis and t2 in the second. That is: x= t2 and y= t3 just as NateTG gave.

That's a perfectly good parametrization- in particular, when t= 1, it gives the point (1, 1) and when t= 2, it gives the point (4,8).

Once you have that, you could replace the "t" by any formula (in particular "2- t") and still have a parametrization for the same curve. With x= (2-t)2 and y= (2-t)3, when t= 1, we get (1,1) and when t= 0, we get (4,8), just the reverse of what we had before.
 
Oooh, thank you both very much NateTG and HallsofIvy! That made perfect sense! :-)
 

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