Death of an Animal: Questions & Answers

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The discussion revolves around the biological processes that occur immediately after the decapitation of an animal, exploring the timeline and mechanisms of death at various levels of organization, including cellular function and organ viability. Participants examine the implications of decapitation on physiological functions and the duration of cellular life post-mortem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the immediate cessation of organ function following decapitation and whether the epidermis continues to produce new skin cells.
  • Another participant references anecdotal evidence of a headless chicken surviving for weeks, suggesting that the brain stem might remain intact and control vital functions.
  • A different participant argues that individual cells begin to die due to lack of oxygen and nutrients after decapitation, emphasizing that death is not instantaneous and depends on the exhaustion of energy stores like ATP and glucose.
  • Concerns are raised about the process of necrosis, where dying cells release their contents, potentially harming surrounding cells.
  • One participant asserts that while muscle twitches may occur post-decapitation, significant cell death and deterioration begin within hours, and the viability of organs for transplantation is limited.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the duration of cellular viability after decapitation and the mechanisms involved in the death of tissues and organs. No consensus is reached regarding the specifics of these processes.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge various assumptions about the physiological processes involved, including the role of the brain stem and the availability of nutrients, but do not resolve these complexities.

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Say you have an animal and you swiftly decapitate it. As an organism, it is now dead (right?), but in what level (below organism) does death immediately set in? When an animal is swiftly killed, do all of it's organs immediately stop functioning? Would that organism's epidermis continue to create new skin cells for a while after it's head was severed? Would food in the digestice system continue to pass through it? How long would it take for the individual cells of an organism to die, is it totally dependent upon how much ATP is available? Anything else you'd like to add about what happens/does happen after death?
 
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If you had ever had the good fortune to see a chicken with its head cut off running around spouting blood, you wouldn't have to ask that question. Modern kids miss so many delightful experiences.
 
Originally posted by selfAdjoint
If you had ever had the good fortune to see a chicken with its head cut off running around spouting blood, you wouldn't have to ask that question. Modern kids miss so many delightful experiences.

haha. while watching tv, there was a segment in some show (Max X?) that had the headless chicken. the people were able to keep it alive for weeks before they choked it while tryin to drop food down throat to feed it.
 
Originally posted by liljediboi
haha. while watching tv, there was a segment in some show (Max X?) that had the headless chicken. the people were able to keep it alive for weeks before they choked it while tryin to drop food down throat to feed it.

Is that even possible? The only plausible explanation i could think of was that the brain stem (responsible for controlling all vital aspects of life such as breathing) was not cut off..

wasteofo2 -

Assuming all breathing/heartbeating ceases after animal is decapitated, individual cells will begin to die due to the lack of oxygen and nutrients are you supposed.

Don't forget that cells not only contain ATP, but also glucose (used in ATP production) and other essentials. So death is not immediate.. only after these stores are exhausted.

And when cells die in this way (necrosis), their internals are spilled into the surrounding areas. Enzymes and other chemicals (superoxides come to mind) from these cells could destroy other cells in the area too, causing a sort of cascade.

Hm... that's all i can think of.
 
Originally posted by liljediboi
haha. while watching tv, there was a segment in some show (Max X?) that had the headless chicken. the people were able to keep it alive for weeks before they choked it while tryin to drop food down throat to feed it.

That's not possible. When a chicken has it's head removed, or even when a person dies, the nerves and muscles in the rest of the body continue to twitch until they run out of energy reserves. This doesn't last very long once the heart stops beating and distributing oxygenated blood to all the organ systems. Of course the organs don't die instantly, otherwise we wouldn't have the ability to transplant vital organs. But there isn't a huge window of time for that. Living tissues can remain alive about 4 to 6 hours outside of the body before significant cell death and deterioration begins to occur, and this does depend on the tissue. In a lab setting, small pieces of tissue can be kept alive in culture longer with nutrients supplied through the media, but since the tissue is bathed with nutrients, too large of a piece of tissue will start dying on the inside where the nutrients aren't being received.
 

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