Quarks are the solution to the GUT

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The discussion centers around the hypothesis that quarks and leptons are remnants of six missing dimensions as described in M-Theory, and how this perspective could enhance understanding of Grand Unified Theories (GUT). Participants explore various implications of this idea, including the formation of matter during the Big Bang, the nature of particles, and the duality of electrons and photons.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that accepting quarks as remnants of six dimensions could solve major questions in physics, such as the half-life of protons and the formation of quasars.
  • Others argue that scientific acceptance should be based on conclusive evidence rather than a need to "learn to accept" hypotheses.
  • A participant questions how a dimension can be identified with a particle, seeking clarification on the hypothesis.
  • There is a discussion about the significance of understanding what an electron is, with some suggesting that this question is fundamental to solving broader physics problems.
  • One participant mentions the Young's Double Slit experiment and its implications for understanding electron behavior, emphasizing the need to rethink established theories.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the concept of a particle being a dimension and requests further elucidation on this point.
  • There are references to the Standard Model and Superstring theory, with some participants suggesting that these frameworks do not adequately address fundamental questions about particles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no consensus reached on the validity of the hypothesis that quarks are dimensions or on the nature of electrons and quarks. The discussion remains unresolved, with competing perspectives on the foundational questions posed.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the definitions and clarity of the hypotheses being discussed, particularly regarding the relationship between particles and dimensions. The discussion also reflects a variety of interpretations of experimental results and theoretical frameworks.

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If we can learn to accept that Quarks and Leptons are the remnants of the six missing dimensions as described in the M-Theory, our understanding and knowledge of the GUT would increase exponentially.

Accepting the concept that Quarks are the missing six dimensions automatically solves several major questions.

Where are the six missing dimensions described in the M-Theory?

How matter (Quarks) was formed during the Big Bang as a by product, when the other six dimsensions collapsed?

Why the half-life of Proton, is what it is.

The Duality of an electron and photon.

Why Quasars (Super Massive Black Holes) formed before Galaxies appeared!

The beauty of this theory, accepting all the evidence which indicates Quarks are the missing six dimensions is that it does not change any currently accepted theorem's it simply explains them in more detail and with clear understanding.

Regards

Terry Giblin
 
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Originally posted by Terry Giblin
If we can learn to accept that...

wow stop right there. I didn't even read further, anything that starts off with: "if we can learn to accept" in science must have something wrong it. In science we should not need to learn to accept anything. We should take a clear look at the data and draw conclusions from that, "learning to accept" something implies that we do not have enough evidence to support our "acceptance." In science one should refrain from making conclusions without conclusive evidence.
 
Originally posted by Terry Giblin
If we can learn to accept that Quarks and Leptons are the remnants of the six missing dimensions as described in the M-Theory, our understanding and knowledge of the GUT would increase exponentially.

Could you elucidate how you identify a dimension with a particle. Before we learn to accept this, it would at least be worth knowing why we're throwing in the towel.
 
A scientist must have an open mind.

You are only safe after you have passed round three corners - CFD.

I only asked a simple question, "What is an electron?"

When you can answer this question, use the other questions I mentioned to test your answer.

Terry Giblin
 
Originally posted by Terry Giblin
A scientist must have an open mind.

Having an open mind does not include accepting a hypothesis as true with no evidence.

We can't even begin to search for evidence supporting your hypothesis anyway, since it is poorly defined. What does it mean for a particle to be a dimension?
 
For the past four years I have been studying the Young's Double Split experiment, involving electrons.

It was only when I realized I was looking at the experiment with my eye's closed, the only unknown in this whole experiment, was the electron itself.

What is an Electron?

Once you can answer this question, you can find the solution.

Which appears to be the only question in physics, you are not supposed to ask.

Only mathematicians are allowed to answer this question.

“How can a particle be a dimension?” – This is the corner stone of the Superstring theory, which in turn complies with the Standard Model – argue with them.

But can either theorem answer, “what is an electron?” and “what is a quark?” – Don't ask you might not like the answer.

You can answer these questions, only if you have your eyes open.

The beauty is its simplicity. Even my children can now understand, it’s so simple and higgsless.

Terry Giblin
 
Originally posted by Terry Giblin
For the past four years I have been studying the Young's Double Split experiment, involving electrons.

It was only when I realized I was looking at the experiment with my eye's closed, the only unknown in this whole experiment, was the electron itself.

What is an Electron?

Once you can answer this question, you can find the solution.

Which appears to be the only question in physics, you are not supposed to ask.


No, asking that question was the key to solving electron diffraction. I'm not sure why you think it is a question that can't be asked.

“How can a particle be a dimension?” – This is the corner stone of the Superstring theory, which in turn complies with the Standard Model – argue with them.

I still don't understand how a particle can be a 'dimension'? What does this mean?

But can either theorem answer, “what is an electron?” and “what is a quark?” – Don't ask you might not like the answer.

I'm all ears. (by the way -- string theory does explain what a quark and electron are).

You can answer these questions, only if you have your eyes open.

Can you elucidate your thinking for us, please.
 
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It is difficult to get electron diffraction, using only one electron at a time.

I'm talking about the experiment, which shows the duality of an electron.

Using one electron, which can pass through two doors, produces an interference pattern - which cannot be explained using any of the current known theorems.

The Standard Model in Physics is equivalent to the Periodic Table in Chemistry.

Physicists and mathematicians should learn from the Chemists and Biologists and try to solve the fundamental questions first.

Remember how the understanding of the hydrogen atom helped to explain the whole periodic table, let's also not forget nature has also been busy over the passed 15 Billion years, and has already applied its own natural selection process.

So let's concentrate on the winners first, a handful of quarks, the electron and photon.

Where did all the matter in the universe come from, can anyone explain that?

Where do rain drops come from in a thunderstorm, everyone can answer that.

Image the big bang as an explosion of a Super Cloud made out of 10 or 11 Dimensions and full of energy and light, just like a cloud in a thunderstorm.

What is an Electron?

Is it a photon, lepton, quark or mediator?

Image what would happen if an electron was reclassified as a quark, the permutations are endless – poor hydrogen atom!

Now run the Young’s Double slit, experiment backwards, in this Super Cloud, we should expect to see electrons forming or at least a high energy laser show.

This is all happening in a Super Cloud, formed from 10 or 11 Dimensions, with a light and laser show, electrons appearing everywhere, caused from all the “interference”.

The Super Cloud of 10 or 11 Dimensions has just been created formed from the Big Bang, it is very unstable, adjusting to its new surroundings, certain dimensions can exist comfortably without a problem, where as the majority of the others are unstable.

Which came first the electron or quarks?

Then just as dust particles in the cloud attract moisture, the electrons in this Super Cloud of dimensions, induce and act like a catalyst, attracting the most suitable and eager candidates, it only takes is two dimensions, up and down, before drops appear.

As the say – “The rest is history – future”

Now can someone please tell me,

What is an electron?

What is a Quark?

Which came first?

So I can either decide to continue to develop this idea of mine further or forget about it and move on.

Regards

Terry Giblin
 

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