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| Jan16-07, 11:55 AM | #1 |
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Inflationary vacuum and the true vacuum
In a review of particle-theory models of inflation by D.H.lyth and A.riotto
http://au.arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/9807278, they talked about the true vacuum and the inflationary vacuum in page 45, but I have not understand well the difference between them. Could someone clarify the difference between them? |
| Jan16-07, 01:22 PM | #2 |
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| Jan16-07, 02:14 PM | #3 |
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During Inflation, the universe is expanding very rapidly(exponentially) and the number of any existed particled decays exponentially. |
| Jan16-07, 03:40 PM | #4 |
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Inflationary vacuum and the true vacuum |
| Jan16-07, 04:25 PM | #5 |
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you can take look at the following paper page 8 http://www-spires.fnal.gov/spires/fi...dern+cosmology |
| Jan16-07, 06:53 PM | #6 |
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Inflation is based on a scalar field with a self-interaction potential. The state of the field at the absolute minimum of the potential is the true vacuum. The false or inflationary vacuum is a metastable state, that can correspond to a relative minimum of the potential. If the potential energy of a scalar field is dominant over its kinetic energy, it behaves as a cosmological constant accelerating the expansion of space. The article about False vacuum in wikipedia may help.
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| Jan16-07, 08:43 PM | #7 |
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| Jan17-07, 01:30 PM | #8 |
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It's a remarkable theory, inflation. But I like to pose some questions too.
From where or what do we assume that such a scalar field exist, and how do we define (and based on what?) it's properties. Why is it a scalar field (and not some other field, like vector field, or something). What about other fields? They don't exist? Does the scalar field still exist? Why doesn't inflation happen here and now? What would occur if inflation could happen here and now, would it overtake the current universe, or would it simply create a seperate spacetime, nonobservable to us? What are the conditions for inflation to occur? Hope someone can answer these questions. |
| Jan18-07, 04:18 AM | #9 |
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| Jan18-07, 04:30 PM | #10 |
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Hellfire:
Thanks for these clear answers. Yet another question, regarding vacuum states. I wonder from where comes the concept of a "true" vacuum. I mean, isn't that a very relative concept? I have come across an idea about field theory in general, which generaly prescibes that field potentials are all relative, and not absolute. To put it more concrete: all our electronic and electricity equipment would still work the same, no matter what the actual electric potential of earth would be. So a state of 0 electric field potential of earth, is just what we define it to be, but there is no way to tell what it actually is, nor does it matter. (I don't know the english name for the theory, but in dutch it is called "ijkveld theorie" I guess it was invented by Eric van't Hooft, who also invented the holographic theory). Isn't that also applicable to this scalar field potential in inflation cosmology, and which means, there is no real "true" vacuum? |
| Jan19-07, 02:15 AM | #11 |
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I am not sure to understand your question. The definition of (true) vacuum is related to the lowest energy and this corresponds to the absolute minimum of the potential. There must be an absolute minimum of the self-interacting potential regardless of the value of the vacuum energy at that state. Otherwise the vacuum would not be stable.
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| Jan21-07, 06:10 AM | #12 |
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What do they represent physically? Energy? Force? Some other physical entity? And are the values absolutes or relative values? Like my analogy of an electric potential field, there is no way in telling what the absolute value is, because it is only a relative measure. What we call "earth" (zero electric potential) is just a definition, it could be any value, it would not matter for the electromagnetic theory, it all works the same. That is to say, for all practical purposes and applications, the only thing what matters is the potential differences. |
| Jan21-07, 08:28 AM | #13 |
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| Jan21-07, 06:10 PM | #14 |
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| Jan22-07, 07:16 AM | #15 |
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Is it theoretized that a residue inflationary field still active and not at the lowest possible minimum is still active, and could be the source for an accelerated expansion, as is assumed? Is a true vacuum state the state with the absolute minumum of the potential, or the state with zero energy? I guess these do not have to coincide (hence, two different vacuum states)? |
| Jan22-07, 07:28 AM | #16 |
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In the standard model the scalar field responsible for inflation rolls down to the minimum of the potential. The true vacuum is defined to be the lowest energy level, the minimum, which must not be a zero energy level.
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| Jan22-07, 01:53 PM | #17 |
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Thanks hellfire,
This also means I guess that the vacuum state with zero energy density is not on the minimum of the potential, hence two different vacuum states? (if I recall correctly, one is the "true" vacuum state, the other the "false" vacuum state?) And yet another question (this inflationary theory got me curious), are negative potential field values allowed? Negative energy density? (if I recall correctly the very reason for inflationary expansion is a negative pressure which acts as repulsive gravitation?) |
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