Electromagnetic Forces and Fields: Ranking, Ratio, and Distance Calculations

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The discussion revolves around electromagnetic forces and fields, specifically focusing on problems related to current-carrying wires, magnetic fields, and the interactions between them. Participants are exploring various scenarios involving the ranking of forces, calculating magnetic fields, and understanding the behavior of magnetic fields produced by parallel wires.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to rank the forces on wires based on their configurations and currents. Questions arise regarding the symmetry of forces and the magnetic fields produced by the wires. There is also discussion about the relationship between the speed of charged particles in a magnetic field and the magnetic field's dependence on distance from a wire.

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Some participants have provided insights into the symmetry of forces and the need to understand the magnetic field produced by current-carrying wires. Others express confusion regarding specific problems, particularly about the magnetic field produced by parallel wires carrying equal currents in opposite directions. Multiple interpretations of the problems are being explored, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework questions that require understanding of electromagnetic principles without providing complete solutions. Some posts indicate missing information or assumptions that are being questioned, particularly regarding the setup of the problems.

nautica
11) the diagram shows 3 equally spaced wires that are perpendicular to the page. the currents are equal, 2 being out of the page and 1 going into the page. rank the wires according to the magnetude of the forces on them, from least to greatest.


. x .
1 2 3

12) A proton (charge e) traveling perpendicular to a mag field, experiences the same force as an alpha particle (charge 2e) which is also traveling perpendicular to the same field. the ratio of their speeds, v (proton) / v (alpha)

My answer is 2

13) the mag field in T a distance of 2 cm from a long straight wire carrying a current of 2 A is about

15) 2 long parallel straight wires carry equal currents in opposite directions. At a point midway between the wires, the mag field they produce is?

a) zero ( I picked a)
b) non-zero and along a line connecting the wires
c) non-zero and parallel to the wires
d) non-zero and perpendicular to the plane of the two wires
e) non of the above

16) 2 long strait wires are parallel and carry current in the same direction. the currents are 8 A and 12 A and the wires are separated by .4 cm. the mag field in tesla at a point midway between the wires is?

18) the mag field outside a long straight current-carrying wire depends on the distance R from the wire axis according to
a) R
b) 1/R
C) 1/R^2
d) 1/R^3
e) 1/R^3/2
 
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Originally posted by nautica
11) the diagram shows 3 equally spaced wires that are perpendicular to the page. the currents are equal, 2 being out of the page and 1 going into the page. rank the wires according to the magnetude of the forces on them, from least to greatest.


. x .
1 2 3

No. First note the symmetry between the left and right wires: they must experience the same force. Now find the B field that they exert on the middle wire.
12) ...
My answer is 2
OK.
13) the mag field in T a distance of 2 cm from a long straight wire carrying a current of 2 A is about
Learn the expression for the field produced by a current carrying wire; look it up.
15) 2 long parallel straight wires carry equal currents in opposite directions. At a point midway between the wires, the mag field they produce is?

a) zero ( I picked a)
b) non-zero and along a line connecting the wires
c) non-zero and parallel to the wires
d) non-zero and perpendicular to the plane of the two wires
e) non of the above
No. Once again, you must know the field produced by a current-carrying wire. No calculation is needed here, but you do need to know what direction the field points. Compare with #11
16) 2 long strait wires are parallel and carry current in the same direction. the currents are 8 A and 12 A and the wires are separated by .4 cm. the mag field in tesla at a point midway between the wires is?
Same comment.
18) the mag field outside a long straight current-carrying wire depends on the distance R from the wire axis according to
a) R
b) 1/R
C) 1/R^2
d) 1/R^3
e) 1/R^3/2

Ditto.
 
On #18

B= uI/2pieR

So the answer should be 1/R. Right?

Nautica
 
I am confused about this one.

15) 2 long parallel straight wires carry equal currents in opposite directions. At a point midway between the wires, the mag field they produce is?

a) zero
b) non-zero and along a line connecting the wires
c) non-zero and parallel to the wires
d) non-zero and perpendicular to the plane of the two wires
e) non of the above
 
On #11 the 1,2,3 were the names of the wires. I forgot to include my answer

2 would have the greatest and 1 and 3 would be tied. right?
 
Originally posted by nautica
I am confused about this one.

15) 2 long parallel straight wires carry equal currents in opposite directions. At a point midway between the wires, the mag field they produce is?

a) zero
b) non-zero and along a line connecting the wires
c) non-zero and parallel to the wires
d) non-zero and perpendicular to the plane of the two wires
e) non of the above


d
 

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