Originally posted by pallidin
I suppose this is an unrelated thought to the actual question, but, it seems to me that human observation "through one's eyes" to have ANY affect on the stasis or outcome of an external non-human event is absurd.
A tree falls in the forest AND makes a sound whether or not we observe it, I don't care what anyone say's. And the thought that a "sound" is not a sound unless it is heard is complete BS. The fundamental actuality of "sound" creation and propagation has NOTHING to do with observation. It exists because it happened. Period.
It is known through observation 'seeing', that the smallest speck of dust corresponds to the ability of the detector/observer 'Eyes', in such a way that there could be influence from the speck of dust to the observer, or from the observer to the speck of dust.
Simply a speck of dust is visible by the information it relays to the observer. But the correspondence limit states that only a large enough area 'with' information can relay into the observational world, which is exactly what happens when one observes the smallest particulate, it becomes Relative to OBSERVATION!
Now in the Quantum World the 'Hidden Variables' replaces any ability to detect something that has a low Quantum Number associated to it, where size is transferred to lengths of energy based quantities.
The loss of information transport between (Observer/detector) remains one of the puzzling aspects of Quantum Containment, in that information cannot transport from the Quantum World without breaking through the Relative Barrier.
Distance-Location-Size magnitudes cannot be given to any small Quantum Numbers in relation to any Distance-Location-Size comparable to Observers in a 3-D arena.
Now if we were to make assumptions based on the 'Falling-tree' analogy, one can state that allthough a tree may be 'out' of line of sight, it can still be heard falling?..based on the information the Ears recieve, we can deduce that 'it sounds like a tree falling'.
But 'accurate' observations based on sight is quite different, if one was at the farthest location where the tree is Visible before it topples over, (compared in scale to the scale of speck of Dust/Observer), then there can be no information that confirms the tree having fallen?
The Distance-Location-Size would not confirm the tree as having toppled over, the 'movement' of the falling tree could not be distinguished from the limit imposed by the position of observer in relation to the scale one is observing from.
As far as the observer is concerned, based on the information recieved, the tree would still be standing? the motion of the tree falling would need observers to be closer in order to accurately describe the motions involved.
Which gives the Quantum Realm the perfect system in which Hidden Variables can develop into rational explinations of events, every event is forever 'Hidden'.
By default, you cannot get close enough to a Quantum System (without affecting the sytem) in order to observe the motions of 'Hidden' events taking place, the closer you get to becoming part of Quantum System, the 'LESS' you become Relative to the Events that are happening!
Relativity has Limits based on Observations.
Quantum Systems do not have any Limits whatsoever!
