How Do You Calculate Eigenvalues for a 2x2 Symmetric Matrix?

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The discussion revolves around calculating eigenvalues and eigenvectors for a general real symmetric 2x2 matrix represented as A = [[a, b], [b, c]]. Participants are exploring the correct approach to derive eigenvalues and questioning assumptions made in the calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to derive eigenvalues using a specific equation but questions whether there could be four eigenvalues instead of two. Other participants challenge the assumptions made in the calculations and suggest using the quadratic formula for solving the eigenvalue equation.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the steps involved in finding eigenvalues. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct application of algebraic principles and the use of the quadratic formula, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct eigenvalues or eigenvectors yet.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the assumptions made about the relationships between the eigenvalues and the matrix elements, as well as the algebraic manipulations involved in the calculations.

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Find the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of the general real symmetric 2 x 2 matrix A= a b
b c


The two eigenvalues that I got are a-b and c-b. I got these values from this:

(a-eigenvalue)(c-eigenvalue)-b^2=0
(a-eigenvalue)(c-eigenvalue) = b^2
(a-eigenvalue)= b = a-b
(c-eigenvalue)= b = c-b

Will there be 4 eigen values instead of the two that I have? Like, a-b and a+b and c-b and c+b?
I haven't gotten to the eigenvectors yet. I'll post what I have in a minute.

Thanks for your help
 
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eigenvectors

Are these the eigenvectors?

For a-b,

-1
c-a-b


For c-b,

a-c-b
1
 
For the eigenvalues, you can't quite perform one of the steps you did. It's an incorrect assumption that

a - r = b = c - r
where r is an eigenvalue.

You've got the right equation up until that point, i.e.,

(a-r)(c-r) - b^2 = 0

but this is a quadratic equation in the r variable. Solve it the way you would normally solve a quadratic equation! Nothing too fancy.

cookiemonster
 
If you are working with eigenvalues and eigenvectors it would be a really, really good idea not to mess up basic algebra!

You have:
(a-eigenvalue)(c-eigenvalue) = b^2
(a-eigenvalue)= b = a-b
(c-eigenvalue)= b = c-b

You appear to be thinking that if xy= b^2, then x= b and y= b.

That is not at all true! (9*1= 32;5*(9/5)= 32, etc.)

Once you have the equation (a-eigenvalue)(c-eigenvalue) = b^2

(I'm going to use λ for the eigenvalue)

(a- &lamda;)(c-&lamba;)- b2= 0
λ2-(a+c)&lambda+ (ac- b2)= 0

Now you can use the quadratic formula to solve for the two values of λ
 

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