Astrology Anomaly: Baby Born on Mars July 12, 2014

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The discussion revolves around the astrological implications of a hypothetical scenario where a baby is born on Mars on July 12, 2014. Participants explore the relevance of Earth-based astrology in the context of Mars, questioning whether a new astrological system would need to be developed for Mars and discussing the nature of astrological influence.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the Sun would be in the Cancer ecliptic for a baby born on Mars, but clarify that this does not mean the Sun would be in the constellation Cancer.
  • There is a proposal that people on Mars might need to develop a new system of astrology, as Earth-based astrology is based on a geo-centric model.
  • One participant notes that astrology on other planets would require extensive study of behavioral cycles in relation to planetary positions.
  • Questions are raised about how distant planets influence individuals on Earth and why astrologers often disagree on their interpretations.
  • A historical perspective is mentioned, indicating that professional astronomers once also practiced astrology.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the scientific basis of astrology, questioning when it became associated with science.
  • One participant reflects on the idea that both planetary and earthly events occur simultaneously and are mutually reflective, although this explanation raises further questions.
  • Another participant comments on humanity's desire to understand the unknowable, suggesting that uncertainty is uncomfortable for many.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the applicability of Earth-based astrology to Mars, with no consensus on whether a new system would be necessary or how astrological influence operates. The discussion includes both supportive and skeptical perspectives on astrology's scientific validity.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of current astrological frameworks when applied to extraterrestrial contexts, emphasizing the need for new observations and studies to establish any astrological principles on Mars.

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Just for fun...
If a baby is born on Mars on July 12, 2014, what would his/her astrological Sun sign be?
 
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Math Is Hard said:
Just for fun...
If a baby is born on Mars on July 12, 2014, what would his/her astrological Sun sign be?


the sun would be in the Cancer ecliptic. no, the sun would NOT be in the constellation Cancer.
 
thanks for your response, Kerrie!
would people on Mars have to develop an entirely new system of astrology, since the one used on Earth is based on a geo-centric model?
 
Math Is Hard said:
thanks for your response, Kerrie!
would people on Mars have to develop an entirely new system of astrology, since the one used on Earth is based on a geo-centric model?

oh wait! my apologies, i answered so fast and didn't even see the mars part! i will have to research that a bit, as i am not sure. but, as far as Earth based astrology, yes Earth is on a geo-centric model because of the positions of the planets in relation to our earth. the same would be true for Mars astrology, and in order for astrology to be "established" on other planets, the behavioral cycles of people in relation to the aspects and planetary positions would have to be studied for quite some time. this is how astrology has been established for us here, and you will sometimes read the phrase that "astrology is the oldest science". this is due to how long humanity has studied the celestial bodies-whether they be planets or stars. as we have discovered more of these bodies, our version of astrology has been more detailed.

for me personally, when i look at a birth chart, i do not look at planets past saturn because the outer planets take so long to move, and there hasn't been enough time to understand the cycles in correlation with earth. what i do understand with the "inner" planets and jupiter/saturn is many people will live up to the typical tendencies unless some experience has changed their perspective/attitude in that particular "planetary influence".
 
So, how exactly do planets millions/billions of miles away affect us?

And why do no two astrologers ever agree on their premonitions?

I don't ever remember Astrology being associated with science - when did that happen?
 
There was a time when professional astronomers also worked as astrologers.
 
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So, how exactly do planets millions/billions of miles away affect us?

And why do no two astrologers ever agree on their premonitions?

I don't ever remember Astrology being associated with science - when did that happen?


q, your questions are off topic. try these links for some insight.Astrology The physics of astrology

i don't feel like repeating a thread which is already duplicated twice in this forum. and please-read them all the way through.
 
Thanks - I read them through, however there were no clear answers other than "there is no "cause" in the heavens followed by an "effect" here on Earth. Instead, both planetary and earthly events happen simultaneously and are mutually reflective. Neither is the other here on the Earth below."

Of course, that makes no sense at all and tends to raise more questions than answers.
 
(Q) said:
Thanks - I read them through, however there were no clear answers other than "there is no "cause" in the heavens followed by an "effect" here on Earth. Instead, both planetary and earthly events happen simultaneously and are mutually reflective. Neither is the other here on the Earth below."

Of course, that makes no sense at all and tends to raise more questions than answers.

pose your questions in those threads then.
 
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Another attempt by mankind to know the unknowable.
"I don't know" seems too painful for most folks.
 
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I never did thank you for your response, Kerrie. My bad!
I thought what you said was very interesting. I had just assumed that once you leave planet Earth, all bets are off. I didn't think about people starting the observations over from scratch.
 

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