Expand Polynomial Function with Roots & Degree: Step-by-Step Guide

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The discussion revolves around how to construct a polynomial function in standard form given specific roots and a degree. The roots provided are 2 and -2i, with a specified degree of 4. Participants explore various interpretations of the problem, including assumptions about multiplicities and the nature of the coefficients.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests starting with f(x)=(x-2)(x-2i)(x+2i) but notes this results in a degree 3 polynomial.
  • Another participant proposes that to achieve a degree 4 polynomial, the root 2 should be assumed to have a multiplicity of 2, leading to f(x)=(x-2)^2(x-2i)(x+2i).
  • Concerns are raised about the ambiguity of the problem, particularly regarding the assumption that the coefficients must be real and whether additional roots are allowed.
  • Some participants argue that if the polynomial is to have real coefficients, then both -2i and 2i must also be roots, while others question if the problem allows for other roots beyond those specified.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of the phrasing "standard form" and how it may not be universally understood among participants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the problem is ambiguous and that multiple interpretations exist regarding the roots and coefficients. There is no consensus on how to proceed with the construction of the polynomial.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the problem statement, including missing assumptions about the nature of the coefficients and the potential for additional roots that are not explicitly mentioned.

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I am posting this for my friend who does not have the internet:

Yes, I know it's easy but even following an example in the book, I can't come up with the correct answer.

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The roots and degree of a polynomial function are given. Write the equation in standard form.

roots: 2, -2i | degree:4

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I thought to start f(x)=(x-2)(x-2i)(x+2i) and simply expand, but this would leave me with a degree 3 answer.

The final correct answer is x^4 - 4x^3 + 8x^2 - 16x + 16

Would anyone be so kind as to show me how to attain this answer step by step?

Thanks in advance.
 
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to get degree four assume that x=2 is a root with multiplicity 2.
That is
[tex] f(x)=(x-2)^2(x-2i)(x+2i)[/tex]
 
Originally posted by Decker
I am posting this for my friend who does not have the internet:

Yes, I know it's easy but even following an example in the book, I can't come up with the correct answer.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The roots and degree of a polynomial function are given. Write the equation in standard form.

roots: 2, -2i | degree:4

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I thought to start f(x)=(x-2)(x-2i)(x+2i) and simply expand, but this would leave me with a degree 3 answer.

The final correct answer is x^4 - 4x^3 + 8x^2 - 16x + 16

Would anyone be so kind as to show me how to attain this answer step by step?

Thanks in advance.
If that is exactly what the question is then it as best ambiguous, and at worst impossible.

Why are we presuming the coefficients must be real? When they say roots, do they mean the only roots are 2 and -2i? If so then there are 3 answers, none of them the one you wrote. So we must have to include other roots, and there is nothing in the question that tells me what I'm allowed to include.

standard form isn't a standard phrase for me.
 
As matt grime said, the question is ambiguous.

IF the problem is to find a fourth degree polynomial with real coefficients having 2 and -2i as roots and no other real roots then the answer is exactly what Philcorp said: use (x+2) twice to get (x-2)2(x-2i)(x+2i). You must have both -2i and 2i to get real coefficients.

IF the problem is to find a fourth degree polynomial with real coefficients and having -2 and 2i as roots but maybe other roots also, then pick any number you like and write (x-2)(x-a)(x-2i)(x+2i) and multiply it out.

IF the problem is to find a fourth degree polynomial having exactly -2 and 2i as roots (and no others) then any of
(x-2)n(x+2i)m (where m+n= 4) will work. That will have complex numbers as coefficients.
 
Originally posted by HallsofIvy
As matt grime said, the question is ambiguous.

IF the problem is to find a fourth degree polynomial with real coefficients having 2 and -2i as roots and no other real roots then the answer is exactly what Philcorp said: use (x+2) twice to get (x-2)2(x-2i)(x+2i). You must have both -2i and 2i to get real coefficients.

But wouldn't that give roots of 2i AND -2i?
 
That's part of the ambiguity. The question lists 2 of the 4 roots that the poly will have and states nothing about the other roots. Guessing what the others might be is what leads to all the possibilities. Requiring real coeffs means -2i and 2i would be roots. We aren't told we can do this, nor is it explicitly barred.
 
Originally posted by DeadWolfe
But wouldn't that give roots of 2i AND -2i?

Yes, which is why I said "no other REAL roots".
 
Sorry. I can't read.
 

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