Seeing the Past: Can Light Traveling in Space be Observed?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of observing light traveling through space and the implications of seeing the past through various means, including telescopes and mirrors. Participants explore theoretical scenarios and the nature of light and sound in space.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that shooting a strong light into space could allow one to see that light traveling with a powerful telescope, proposing the idea of seeing the past in deep space.
  • Another participant notes that observing celestial bodies means looking into the past, referencing the delay between seeing lightning and hearing thunder, questioning why stars cannot be heard.
  • A different participant mentions that looking in a mirror reflects a past image, estimating a delay of approximately 60 nanoseconds.
  • One participant corrects the previous estimate, explaining that the delay is about 4 nanoseconds for a typical distance to a mirror.
  • Another participant states that sound cannot be heard from the sun due to the absence of a medium in space and humorously discusses the impracticality of observing Earth from a mirror placed 1000 light-years away.
  • A participant humorously considers the implications of blinking quickly to see a reflection of oneself with closed eyes in a mirror.
  • One participant asserts that light does not lose energy traveling through space, explaining that a perfect laser beam remains intact, while an imperfect one spreads out over distance. They suggest that a telescope could potentially see a laser pulse if light is scattered back to Earth, but not in a true vacuum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the nature of light and sound in space, with some agreeing on the concept of observing the past while others contest specific details or implications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the feasibility of seeing light traveling through space.

Contextual Notes

Participants' claims depend on various assumptions about the nature of light, sound, and the conditions of space. There are unresolved questions about the practicalities of observing light over vast distances and the effects of scattering.

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say that..
you shoot a really strong light facing towards space from earth,
as the light travels in space it would lose energy and start to disappear. but before it all disappears, what if you use a really strong telescope pointing at the direction that you shot your light into space? would you be able to see that light traveling ? even though its damn fast.

this is just my opinion , i think you can see the past and hear the past in deep deep deep space
 
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When you look at any of the heavenly bodies you are looking into the past, just as you said. Count the seconds between seeing a lightning bolt and hearing the thunder(5 seconds per mile). I never heard a star. Why?
 
And when you look at the mirror and you see your own figure, you are seeing the past, how you were aprox. 60 nano-seconds before.
 
Originally posted by Clausius2
And when you look at the mirror and you see your own figure, you are seeing the past, how you were aprox. 60 nano-seconds before.

Well, not that long. LIght travels at very close to one foot per nanosecond, so if you were, say, two feet from your mirror, the light being reflected would go four feet to get back to you, and you would see yourself as you were 4 nanoseconds ago.
 
you can't hear suns cos sound are pressure waves and there's no medium in space.

as for looking back in time with a telescope, you don't need to first fire a strong beam of light.

a little bit of humor: i once told my mum of the possibility of placing a mirror 1000 lightyears away from earth, and looking at it, with the mirror aimed at earth. and how we'd see Earth and what was happening on it 2000 years ago. and she says

"wouldnt the people on Earth notice the mirror and telescope watching them?"
 
Originally posted by selfAdjoint
Well, not that long. LIght travels at very close to one foot per nanosecond, so if you were, say, two feet from your mirror, the light being reflected would go four feet to get back to you, and you would see yourself as you were 4 nanoseconds ago.

Hilarious! So, if I could blink really fast(faster than is possible), I could look at myself in the mirror seeing a reflection of myself that has it's eyes closed!
 
Light does not lose energy when traveling through space.

A perfect laser beam will stay intact forever until it hits something. A real (imperfect) laser will spread out, however, the further it goes. It will not disappear, but its energy will become spread over a larger area.

You *could* use a telescope to see your laser pulse, if some substance in the intervening space was scattering some of the light back to Earth. If the intervening space was truly a vacuum, however, you could not see it.

- Warren
 

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