How Can We Create and Control Gravity?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of creating and controlling gravity, as well as an exploration of Newton's third law of motion. Participants delve into theoretical implications, definitions, and related concepts, including the conservation of momentum and the nature of gravity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether it is currently possible to create or control gravity, with one stating that we cannot do so at present.
  • There is a request for clarification on Newton's third law, specifically regarding the meaning of "action" and whether it refers to force or energy.
  • One participant mentions that the law of conservation of momentum is a modern interpretation of Newton's third law.
  • Another participant expresses curiosity about the existence of an "anti-gravity" and mentions ongoing research in that area.
  • Some participants discuss the relationship between action, reaction, and momentum conservation, with one emphasizing that without a reactionary force, momentum could not be conserved.
  • There is a mention of hypothetical particles, such as the graviton, and their potential properties, including being their own antiparticles.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the definition of impulse and its relation to momentum and Newton's third law.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the possibility of creating or controlling gravity, with no consensus reached. There is also debate regarding the interpretation of Newton's third law and its implications, indicating a lack of agreement on the definitions and concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that Newton's original terminology may be outdated or unclear, particularly regarding the term "action." There are also references to ongoing research in anti-gravity, which remains speculative.

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2 questions...

I have two questions

Is it possible create gravity on our own(i mean controlling it)

Can anyone explain me the Newtonsthird law properly?
 
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You cannot push an object without feeling the effect of doing so yourself. Laymen call it common sense. Scientists call it Newtons 3rd law.
 
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No, we cannot, at present, create or control gravity.

As for the future, "hypothesen non fengo".
 
To control gravity. Would be mindblowing. The concept would help so much with labor on planet earth.
 
I know about the 3rd law very well ie "every action has equal and opposite reaction which is equal in magnitude but different in direction and act on different body"
but i don't understand the term "action"
Did Newton mean Force or energy?

Now coming to the second question. We know that everything(force,particle etc) has an anti. Does Gravity have one?
 
Newton wrote before some of these concepts were clarified. The modern version of Newton's third is conservation of momentum.

Some particles are their own antiparticles, for example the photon. I believe the graviton, which is still hypothetical, is one of those too.
 
Thanks

I am aware of the the law of conservation of momentum.
 
Wait i don't get it.

The law of conservation of momentum says this
"The total momuntum on a group of bodies remains conserved provided there is no externat force acting on it."

It is not telling about the action and reaction

It isjust telling that both total up to same before and after.

About gravity...

I heard that there are researches going on to find antigravity and some are succesful.
 
If there were not a reactionary force, then the momentum could not possibly be conserved. "Equal and opposite" is just perfect in order to ensure conservation of momentum.

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The old wrod for "action" means the same as the current word for "impulse." Impulse is defined as the change in momentum. So if two objects collide (call them object A and object B) and they bounce off each other, then the change in momentum of object A will be equal in magnitude to the change in momentum of object B, though opposite in direction. THis is essentially the law of conservation of momentum.

Since impulse is equal to the change in momentum, and impulse can be calculated as the applied force multiplied by the time through which the force is applied (impulse = Ft), you can see that since A cannot touch B for a different amount of time than B touches A, the forces on each otehr also must be the same.

So the modern statement of Newton's 3rd Law is sometimes stated as "If one object exerts a force on a second object, then the second object exerts a force equal in magnitude but opposite in direction on the first object."

THis is the customary "high school" definition; the better definition incorporates the conservation of momentum. Either way the use of the word "action" is arcane and inappropriate.
 
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thanks
 

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