Can You Move Someone Ten Feet Without Motors, Wheels, or Human Propulsion?

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The discussion revolves around the challenge of moving a person horizontally at least ten feet without using motors, human propulsion, or wheels. Participants explore various creative and unconventional methods while adhering to the constraints of simplicity and practicality.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants suggest various methods, including using ramps, reducing friction with materials like wax paper or Teflon, and even unconventional ideas like using a fire extinguisher or a dog for propulsion. Questions arise about the feasibility of these methods in a real-world context and the specific constraints imposed by the teacher.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with multiple ideas being proposed, and participants are questioning the assumptions behind the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the practicality of certain suggestions, but there is no clear consensus on a viable solution yet.

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Participants note that the task must be performed in a real-world setting, and there are restrictions on using certain tools or methods, such as motors or human propulsion. The challenge seems to be part of a class assignment, adding to the complexity of the discussion.

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How do you:

Move a person at least ten feet in a horizontal direction(parrallel to the ground; measured in a straight line)without the use of the following:

Motors
Human Propultion
Wheels

And without creating a set that is more ellaborate (inclusive) than building a ramp and "sled" setup. by "sled" I mean a board or other surface to sit/stand/lay on with something on the bottom to reduce friction such as ice or soap.

I have thought a lot about it but I can't think of anything simple(which is one of the guidlines) that can be done, I believe that soap or something similar should be used to reduce friction, but I can't think of anything simpler than using a ramp.
 
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Why did you just create a copy of your other thread?

cookiemonster
 
It's not a copy, I reworded it, and no ones in the other forum.
 
I hate to break it to you, but the same people that are on that forum are on this one.

cookiemonster
 
CAN you use the ramp? Because you could use a ramp to have someone slide down with little flat mini-sleds (boards or flat shoes with pieces of teflon cloth like plumbers have) on their feet and have them slide down the ramp onto a path of marbles. Or are they calling marbles "wheels"? Can they go down a ramp onto dowels?
 
Well, since we got this thread, let's pretend the other one never existed.

If you can reduce the coefficient of friction to 0 and the ground is perfectly flat, then any force regardless of the strength will eventually move you ten feet. A force like wind, maybe.

How ideal a world are you considering? How much can you do in said world?

cookiemonster
 
Are you allowed to use a bazooka?

What is the point of this question?
 
It sounds like they are actually having to do this in the class. Bazooka is no good, there's a human element involved. An inhuman element, anyway. Maybe a big bedsheet and a big fan could work, on a path of waxed paper and with shoes that you spray Tire Black all over. But that might be too elaborate.

Good luck, micron!
 
Originally posted by cookiemonster
Well, since we got this thread, let's pretend the other one never existed.

If you can reduce the coefficient of friction to 0 and the ground is perfectly flat, then any force regardless of the strength will eventually move you ten feet. A force like wind, maybe.

How ideal a world are you considering? How much can you do in said world?

cookiemonster

I'm a talking about the real world, as we have to actually perform it, If it were just coming up with a hypothetical way of doing it then I would not have had any problem. Because I can think of many ways to do it hypothetically, but I can't think of anythink that would be practical.

Also thanks for your suggestion holly but unfortunately someone thought of using a fan but our teacher said that since fan's have motors...
 
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Okay, now that we're back into the real world, what resources are available to you?

cookiemonster
 
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Okay, one more suggestion and then I'll leave it to the sensible people. What if, on your path of heavily sprayed wax paper and your Tire-Black dripping shoes, you also had some bean bags, with lead shot in them, and they are around your waist in a bag or fanny pack, and you THROW them the opposite way you want to go? Or maybe you could be on a sled and throw them. :smile:
P.S. I lived on Whidbey and moved 2 years ago!
 
  • #12
I think that counts as human propulsion, but it is a good idea.

cookiemonster
 
  • #13
How about a greased cafeteria tray & a fire extinguisher for propulsion?

Still too messy?:smile:


Maybe you could attach a long hose to the fire extinguisher so it squirts out the window.
 
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Okay, one more: You prof said no HUMAN propulsion. Could it be a trick? Could he want to throw you off the scent? I think you ought to get a nice-sized DOG to pull you on a sled. Either one of mine could pull you, easy. You'll have to have a well-trained one, though.
Just a thought. I dreamt it, dogs pulling people around.
 
  • #15
Dig an inclining hole under their feet, instead of a ramp?
 
  • #16
Fill the room with water and get yourself to float. Dribble some dishwashing detergent on one side of you thus destroying the surface tension of water on one side. The surface tension on the other side will pull you across the room. IF the teacher says "No," then offer to do a sample demonstration in a fish tank with a little boat made from paper.

By the way, is the only way to "get" this problem by correctly reading the mind of your teacher?
 
  • #17
Use a static frame of reference. The rotation of the Earth will get you ten feet pretty quickly.
 

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