Australian Scientists Confirm Past Life On Mars

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The discussion revolves around the claims of past life on Mars, specifically referencing findings from Australian scientists and related articles. It includes debates about the validity of these findings, the implications of methane measurements, and the significance of Martian meteorites. The scope encompasses theoretical implications, scientific controversies, and ongoing debates in the scientific community.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference an article linking Australian findings to the existence of past life on Mars, suggesting it may not have received adequate attention in the USA.
  • Others argue that the evidence presented, such as the appearance of fossils, is insufficient to convince the scientific community, emphasizing that the question remains open.
  • One participant mentions a previous claim regarding current life on Mars based on methane measurements, questioning the assumptions that methane is exclusively biologically produced and that it would not persist long after formation.
  • There is a discussion about the significance of the 30 confirmed Mars meteorites found on Earth, with some questioning what these findings contribute to the debate about life on Mars.
  • A participant notes that the discussion is ongoing in another forum section, suggesting a more appropriate venue for the topic.

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Participants express differing views on the validity and implications of the findings related to life on Mars. There is no consensus on the interpretations of the evidence or its significance, indicating that multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in assumptions regarding methane production and persistence, as well as the ongoing nature of the debate surrounding the interpretation of Martian meteorite evidence. The context of previous claims and controversies is also noted.

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http://www.ansto.gov.au/info/press/2004/p02.html
Thought I’d link this article, as I’m quite sure those in the USA didn’t hear about it.

Reminds me of the article I scored from Pravda (Russian newspaper) a few years ago, regarding the Hungarians proving that life exists TODAY on Mars (they quite convincingly used measurements of Methane, a biologically-produced gas, to determine their findings).

Add this finding to those of the other 30 CONFIRMED Mars meteorites, found on Earth;
http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/snc/index.html

Perhaps Hoagland’s claims regarding the “Martian Fossil” found (and pulverised) in front of Opportunity’s cameras, is not so “out there”, after all. His story on the Enterprise Mission website compares this particular fossil to those of Crinoids (found on Earth).
 
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Originally posted by Nommos Prime (Dogon)
http://www.ansto.gov.au/info/press/2004/p02.html
Thought I’d link this article, as I’m quite sure those in the USA didn’t hear about it.
No, I've heard of it and the controversy surrounding the finding did hit the papers here when it first came up. This paper does little to change the minds of those in the scientific community: 'gee, it sure looks like a fossil' isn't good enough. Its still far from a closed question.
Reminds me of the article I scored from Pravda (Russian newspaper) a few years ago, regarding the Hungarians proving that life exists TODAY on Mars (they quite convincingly used measurements of Methane, a biologically-produced gas, to determine their findings).
That requries the false assumptions that the only way to get methane is through a biological process and that methane wouldn't remain very long after its creation. In fact, most of the planets and many of the moons in our solar system have methane (gas, liquid, or solid) on them.
Add this finding to those of the other 30 CONFIRMED Mars meteorites, found on Earth
What exactly does that add? No one is debating that the meteorite came from Mars.
 
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Agree - check out the link Nereid provided for further discussion on this. Thanks
 

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