What is topic number 9 on eurekalert.org and why is it important?

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The discussion revolves around understanding topic number 9 from the EurekAlert website, which relates to gravity and its implications in physics. Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the topic and seek assistance in exploring its significance and complexities, particularly in the context of quantum gravity.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in starting a report on the topic of gravity, indicating a lack of confidence in their physics knowledge.
  • Another participant suggests looking into quantum gravity and recommends books by Brian Greene and Lee Smolin, noting that the topic is complex and not fully understood even by experts.
  • A participant emphasizes the need for specific questions to facilitate better assistance, comparing the request for information to asking for a broad historical overview.
  • One participant provides a brief overview of general relativity and quantum mechanics, highlighting the challenges in reconciling these theories, particularly regarding the mathematical inconsistencies when attempting to merge them.
  • String theory is mentioned as a potential framework to address the issues arising from the incompatibility of general relativity and quantum mechanics, with an explanation of its fundamental concepts.
  • The same participant cautions that their explanations are imprecise and acknowledges the ongoing nature of research in this area.

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The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the specifics of the topic, with participants presenting various perspectives and levels of understanding regarding gravity and quantum gravity. There is no clear agreement on how to approach the topic or its importance.

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Participants acknowledge the complexity of merging general relativity with quantum mechanics, noting that existing theories may not adequately address the issues at hand. The discussion remains open-ended with unresolved questions and assumptions about the nature of gravity.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals seeking to understand the complexities of gravity, quantum gravity, and the challenges in unifying these concepts within physics.

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Gravity - Do you know it?

I am required by my physics class to write a report concerning topic number 9 on the following site
http://www.eurekalert.org/features/doe/2002-02/ddoe-1pq061502.php

I am having a great deal a difficulty even starting to write on the topic. I am not what you would classify a bright physics student. Any incite into this topic would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Google search for quantum gravity.

Warning: An indepth explanation is *hard* and not understood even by the best physicists in the world. I recommend you pick up Brian Greene's book the elegant universe, and Lee Smolins 3 roads to quantum gravity. They are written for the Layman, so it should be approachable especially if you have some undergrad level of understanding of quantum mechanics and special relativity.
 
C'mon fellas. I know there are some smart people on these boards. I need to write 10 pages on this topic. For the love of God please help me.
 
I don't know if I'm smart or not, but I do know a little something about what you're asking =)

And I'm telling you, get those books and do a little self research, b/c the answers you're looking for are not found in a paragraph on an internet forum.

Why don't you ask a very specific question, b/c frankly its akin to asking someone 'what's the history of Europe like, someone has got to know a little something?'

But here's a paragraph all the same.

General relativity is Einstein's theory of gravitation. It involves the geometrization of space and time and making that the primary source term for generating gravity, its a very large scale force. Quantum mechanics + special relativity, is the study of the very small (the remaining 3 forces in nature). Both theories are well tested experimentally in their own domains of validity. Mathematically however, they don't mix well. In part b/c GR involves compact, more or less continuous geometry, and quantum mechanics discrete 'fuzziness' and potentially nonlocal effects. When you mix them in a naive quantum version of gravity, you get a theory that involves gravitons that output pathological infinities (read nonsense). In a sense, the theory breaks down. So we expect something 'new' to emerge, in much the same way that Fermi theory of weak decay broke down and led to modern Electroweak theory.

String theory is one attempt to get past the problem, essentialy removing the point particle as a fundamental unit, and instead postulating a 1dimensional or larger 'brane' to replace it. Geometry in string theory, then is an emergent 'field' just like all others, and not truly fundamental. Particles and forces are interpreted as excitations of various 'string' modes of oscillation.

Please understand, that at the level I am talking at, these things are very unprecise and in many ways WRONG. But that's the way things are, in a field that as yet is still work in progress.
 
Thank you much Haelfix.
 

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