Understanding the Derivative at Point P(1,2) in f(x,y)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the derivative of the function f(x,y) = 4 - x² - (1/4)y² at the point P(1,2), particularly focusing on the use of a directional derivative and the origin of the angle π/3 in the context of a unit vector.

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  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the source of the angle π/3 in the context of the directional derivative.
  • Another participant suggests that the angle is part of the given information necessary for finding the directional derivative at the specified point.
  • A third participant acknowledges the confusion and suggests that the question may be poorly written or formatted.
  • A later reply clarifies that the expression for the unit vector u is derived from its definition as pointing at an angle of π/3 radians from the positive x-axis.
  • One participant humorously suggests using a different notation for vectors in LaTeX.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the question may be poorly presented, but there is no consensus on the clarity of the information provided regarding the angle and its relevance to the problem.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in the problem statement and the assumptions regarding the directional derivative, but does not resolve these issues.

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OK, I having a small problem understanding how my textbook came about an answer to an example problem.

[tex]f(x,y)=4-x^2-\frac{1}{4}y^2[/tex]
at P(1,2)

This next step is the one that's bugging me:

[tex]u^\rightarrow=\cos(\frac{\pi}{3})\imath+\sin(\frac{\pi}{3})\jmath[/tex]

This is one of those instances where something magic happens because right now I have little to no clue where the [tex]\frac{\pi}{3}[/tex] came from.

Thanks...
 
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I may be wrong, but isn't that just part of the given information? I mean, you're being asked to find the directional derivative, meaning the rate of change of the function at a point in a given direction. So you know the function z=f(x,y), you're given a point P(1,2), and you're given the unit vector of the direction you're interested in.
 
Yeah your correct... The question is poorly written (or at least poorly formated). Thanks for showing me my stupid mistake.
 
Specifically, [tex]u^\rightarrow=\cos(\frac{\pi}{3})\imath+\sin(\frac{\pi}{3})\jmath[/tex] is the unit vector point at an angle [tex]\pi/3[/tex] radians from the positive x-axis.
 
(Psst. Use "\vec v" in LaTeX to display a vector... :smile:)
 

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