How Does Friction Affect the Transition from Sliding to Rolling in Bowling?

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of a bowling ball transitioning from sliding to rolling motion on an alley, specifically examining the role of friction and energy conservation in this process.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the energy conservation approach and question its validity in the context of friction's impact on the system. There are attempts to formulate equations for both translational and rotational motion, considering the effects of friction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different perspectives on how to incorporate friction into their calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to account for energy loss due to friction, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of energy conservation in a system where friction is present, and there is a lack of clarity on how to effectively integrate this factor into their equations.

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a bowling ball is given an initial speed vo on an alley such that it initially slides without rolling. The coefficient of friction between ball and alley is u.

find the speed of the ball's center of mass vCM at the time pure rolling motion occurs.

i used (1/2)mvo^2=(1/2)mVCM^2 + (1/2)Iw^2
I=(2/5)mr^2

i got vo^2=(7/5)v^2 which is wrong.

how do i solve this problem?
 
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Originally posted by Xamfy19
i used (1/2)mvo^2=(1/2)mVCM^2 + (1/2)Iw^2
I=(2/5)mr^2
It looks like you are assuming that energy is conserved. Why?
 
Well, I think the friction must have consumed certain energy too. However, I have no idea how to incorporate it into the equation.
 
There are several ways to attack this problem. Here's one way:

Picture what's happening. The ball starts with pure translational motion. The friction slows the translational motion, and starts the ball rotating. So write equations for the translational motion and for the rotational motion, due to the friction. The ball will slow down (but increase rotational speed) until the speed is just right to stop slipping.
 

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