Electric Currents and Resistance I NEED HELP

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving electric currents and resistance, specifically calculating the required radius of a copper cable designed to carry a current of 400A with a specified power loss of 4 W/m.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between power, current, and resistance, referencing relevant equations. Some express confusion about substituting values into the equations and the meaning of the results, particularly regarding units for radius and diameter.

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Several participants have provided guidance on using equations to relate power, current, and resistance. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the calculations, including unit conversions and the distinction between radius and diameter. No consensus has been reached on the final answer or its units.

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Participants are working under a time constraint as the homework is due soon. There is also a mention of the importance of understanding the problem before plugging in numerical values.

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Our physics teacher gaves us online homework, and he was gone on friday and it is due by midnight tonight. Here is an example problem that we are having trouble with:

A copper cable is designed to carry a current of 400A with a power loss of 4 W/m. What is the required radius of this cable?
 
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Start with P=I2R

You have the information you need to compute the resistance of 1m of wire.

Use

[tex]R= \frac {\rho L } A[/tex]

where [tex]\rho[/tex] is the resistivity of copper.

Can you finish it?
 
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All i know what to do is to plug in the amperage, but i don't know where the other numbers are substituted for what letter, and i have no idea what Latex is for this equation.
 
P = power = 4 w
R = resistance
A = area
L = length (use 1m)
[tex]\rho[/tex] is the resistivity be sure your value is in ohms/m

Edit:
Oh yeah... I = current
 
Is the answer from those numbers going to be the diameter or the radius? And if I used 1.56e-8 for the resisitivity, would the answer be in m or cm?
 
Power, as Integral said, is given by:
[tex]P = I^2R[/tex]
Subtitute R and you get:
[tex]P = \frac{I^2\rho L}{A} = \frac{I^2\rho L}{\pi r^2}[/tex]
Solve for r:
[tex]r = \sqrt{\frac{I^2\rho L}{\pi P}}[/tex]
Since the question says the power per length unit is 4W/m, L/P is 0.25m/W. The rest you should have.
 
The answer that I came up with was .01409, now is that in "m" or "cm", and is it the radius?
 
Chen said:
Power, as Integral said, is given by:
[tex]P = I^2R[/tex]
Subtitute R and you get:
[tex]P = \frac{I^2\rho L}{A} = \frac{I^2\rho L}{\pi r^2}[/tex]
Solve for r:
[tex]r = \sqrt{\frac{I^2\rho L}{\pi P}}[/tex]
Since the question says the power per length unit is 4W/m, L/P is 0.25m/W. The rest you should have.
Chen, we really in courage people to the complete solution on their own. this is simply doing his homework for him. While we appreicate your efforts please let them do some of the work :)

BTW:
Note how he completely solved the problem in terms of the the variables before plugging in a single number. This is the right way to do physics problems.
 
phystudent said:
The answer that I came up with was .01409, now is that in "m" or "cm", and is it the radius?

If you solve for the diameter then your answer will be the diameter, if you solve for the radius then your answer will be the radius.

What are the units of the value you used for resistivity? That will determine the units of your answer.
 

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