Solving Planetary Motion Homework: Showing v=sqrt(2G (M+m)/d)

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of conservation of energy and momentum to show that at any instant, the speed of one particle relative to the other in a gravitational system is given by v=sqrt(2G(M+m)/d) where d is the distance between the particles at that instant. The conversation also addresses a discrepancy in the solution and identifies a calculation mistake that led to an incorrect answer.
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Homework Statement



Two masses, m and M, are initially at rest at a great distance from each other. The gravitational force between them causes them to accelerate towards each other. Using conservation of energy and momentum, show that at any instant the speed of one of the particles relative to the other is:

v=sqrt(2G (M+m)/d)


where d is the distance between them at that instant.

The Attempt at a Solution



I have the solution sheet but am stuck as to what happens between:

0 = -GMm/d +1/2m v^2(1+m/M)

and

v^2 = 2GM^2/d(M+m)

where v is v_m, but that's not relevant again till the end of the question.

what I've gotten the top to reduce to is

v^2= 2GM[(m+M)/dm]

Am I missing some math trick here?
 
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The answer should be v=sqrt(2G (M+m)/d)*M, and you've made a calculation mistake somewhere...
 
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Hello,

Thank you for sharing your attempt at solving this problem. It looks like you have made some good progress so far. To help you understand the steps between your current solution and the final solution, let's break it down:

First, let's look at the equation you have derived:

v^2= 2GM[(m+M)/dm]

This is a good start, but it's not quite the same as the final solution. To get there, we need to make a couple of substitutions. First, we can replace the "d" in the denominator with the distance between the two masses at that instant, which is represented as "d" in the final solution. This will give us:

v^2= 2GM[(m+M)/d^2]

Next, we can use the definition of the reduced mass, μ, which is given by μ = mM/(m+M). This allows us to rewrite the numerator in the equation as (m+M) = μ(m+M), giving us:

v^2= 2GM[μ(m+M)/d^2]

Finally, we can simplify this further by using the definition of the gravitational constant, G, which is given by G = 6.67 x 10^-11 Nm^2/kg^2. This allows us to rewrite the entire equation as:

v^2= 2Gμ(m+M)/d

Now, if we take the square root of both sides, we get the final solution:

v= sqrt(2Gμ(m+M)/d)

I hope this helps clarify the steps between your solution and the final solution. Keep up the good work!
 

What is the formula for solving planetary motion homework?

The formula for solving planetary motion homework is v=sqrt(2G (M+m)/d), where v is the orbital velocity, G is the gravitational constant, M is the mass of the larger object, m is the mass of the smaller object, and d is the distance between the two objects.

What does each variable in the formula represent?

The variable v represents the orbital velocity, which is the speed at which an object is moving around another object in a circular or elliptical orbit. G represents the gravitational constant, which is a fundamental constant that determines the strength of the gravitational force between two objects. M represents the mass of the larger object, while m represents the mass of the smaller object. Finally, d represents the distance between the two objects, which is the distance from the center of the larger object to the center of the smaller object.

How do I use this formula to solve for v?

To use this formula to solve for v, you will need to plug in the values for G, M, m, and d. Once you have all the values, you can simply input them into the formula and use a calculator to find the square root of the result. The final answer will be the orbital velocity of the smaller object around the larger object.

Why is this formula important in studying planetary motion?

This formula is important in studying planetary motion because it helps us understand the relationship between the mass and distance of two objects in orbit. It also allows us to calculate the orbital velocity, which is a crucial factor in determining the stability of an orbit and the likelihood of collisions between objects.

Are there any limitations to this formula?

Yes, there are some limitations to this formula. It assumes that the objects are point masses (have no size) and that the orbit is circular. In reality, most objects have a finite size and orbits can be elliptical. Additionally, this formula does not take into account external factors such as other objects in the system, atmospheric drag, or the rotation of the objects.

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