The Iron inside a cell pulls and holds on to the oxygen

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The discussion revolves around the biochemical processes of oxygen binding in hemoglobin and the potential for manipulating iron and oxygen at a molecular level for applications such as hydrogen fuel production. It also touches on fetal development and the role of amniotic fluid in nutrient absorption.

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  • One participant questions the feasibility of using supermagnetic iron and zero potential energy (zpe) to separate hydrogen and oxygen from water molecules for fuel purposes.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the ability of supermagnetism to achieve this separation and suggests that a powerful magnetic field might be better utilized for fusion instead.
  • A participant introduces the concept of amniotic fluid in fetal lungs and speculates on its chemical composition and the potential for nutrient absorption, while acknowledging uncertainty about the details.
  • One participant clarifies that the fetus receives oxygen and nutrients from the mother through the umbilical cord, correcting a previous misunderstanding about the role of amniotic fluid.
  • Another participant acknowledges their earlier confusion regarding the contribution of the fetus to amniotic fluid volume during pregnancy.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility of using magnetic fields for molecular separation and the understanding of fetal nutrient absorption, indicating that multiple competing views remain and the discussion is unresolved.

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There are limitations in the understanding of the biochemical processes discussed, particularly regarding the manipulation of elements and the specifics of fetal development. Some assumptions about the chemical composition of amniotic fluid and the processes involved in nutrient absorption remain unverified.

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Now for another question on the same subject You all know how in the human body the oxygen binds to the iron compound inside the hemoglobin. and that carbon monoxide has a 200 to 1 affinity to oxygen within the hemoglobin. But anyway my question is if The Iron inside a cell pulls and holds on to the oxygen bubles inside the hemoglobin. Then is it possible to take Iron maybe supermagnetic Iron using possibly zpe's and pull the oxygen off of the hydrogen and trap the hydrogen in one container and the oxygen in another container. for later usage of hydrogen as fuel.
 
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Fromfirey: "zpe's"?

I do not think even supermagnetism would be enough to pull water molecules apart, never mind getting the parts into the proper containers. Also, I think you get H and OH parts, not H, H, and O parts, if I understand your writing.

Besides, if one could generate a powerful enough magnetic field, I would think fusion is a better use.
 
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The meaning I gave to zpe was zero potential energy that's for making the magnet, that is if it is available in our technology yet. I see thank you, Out and beyond what I don't understand and something I will be doing research on is in the human body --the lungs while humans are fetuses in the wound, there is amniotic fluid in the lungs of the fetus that I believe, don't quote me on this one, if the child is able to obtain nutrients and breakdown the substance it would be interesting to find out the chemical composition of amniotic fluid down to the detail and better understand how if they do break down the fluids in the lungs for some oxygen and what about the other properties in the amniotic fluid. From what I understand the amniotic fluid is composed of the fetuses urine-dont quote me on this one either if so is there nitrogen in the fetuses or Hydrogen in the childs urine? Its kind of complicated. THe air that we breathe in contains 78% nitrogen, oxygen is about 21% and carbon dioxide plus traces of argon, helium and other rare gasses about 1%, carbon dioxide is less than 1%. If the human body can manipulate these elements there has to be a way for us to manipulate them on the outside using similar technologies.
 
The fetus receives oxygen and nutrition from the mother via the umbilical cord.

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Yes your right I had myself backwards there the amniotic fluid- during the pregnancy the fetus adds to the volume of the amniotic fluid with urine and lung secretions.
 

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