Calculating g on an Unfamiliar Planet Using a Simple Pendulum

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration due to gravity (g) on an unfamiliar planet using a simple pendulum of specified length and swing data. Participants are exploring the relationship between the pendulum's frequency, period, and the formula for g.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate g using the pendulum's length and the time for complete swings. There is confusion regarding the definitions of period and frequency, with some questioning the correctness of their calculations and formulas.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the formulas to use, while others are verifying their algebra and calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the period and frequency, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are discussing the importance of carrying units through calculations and clarifying the definitions of terms like period and frequency, which are crucial for solving the problem correctly.

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After landing on an unfamiliar planet, a space explorer constructs a simple pendulum of length 47.0 cm. She finds that the pendulum makes 97.0 complete swings in a time of 141 s .
What is the value of g on this planet?

a complete swing is a cycle? so the period would be 97/ 141 = 0.688??is this right?
i was thinking of using the formula frequency = (1/2pi)*sqrt(g/ L), and get g from there. I tried using the period i said before but it is not right. What am i doing wrong?
 
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Post your work. Your approach is correct.

cookiemonster
 
so g = (f*2pi)^2 * L

f = 1/period = 1.453 Hz

which gives me g= 39.2 and this is wrong . :confused:
 
Check your algebra. I'm getting a different answer.

cookiemonster
 
i have checked the algebra and i keep on getting 39.2 m/s^2 as the gravity, is my formula right?
 
T = 2pi*Sqrt[L/g]

g = L*T^2/(4pi^2)

Yes?

cookiemonster
 
by your formula u get 0.0082? how did u get T^2 on the numerator, when I solve for g using your formula I get (L*4pi^2)/(T^2) which i think is right.
 
Eh, heh, heh... I suck at typing.

g = 4pi^2*L/T^2

cookiemonster
 
which gives 39.2 for g. what other number u get that u said was different??
 
  • #10
4pi^2*(.47m)/(141s/97)^2 = ?

cookiemonster
 
  • #11
You have an error back in your first post:

"a complete swing is a cycle? so the period would be 97/ 141 = 0.688??is this right? "

No, it's not right. It would be a good idea to carry the units along with your calculation. The problem tells you that the pendulum "makes 97.0 complete swings in a time of 141 s ." so that 97/141 would be 97/141 swings per second which is not "period". It is, in fact, the frequency in cycles per second.

The frequency is 0.688 cycles per second, not the period.
 
  • #12
(And the period is one over frequency.)
 

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