What happens when black holes and dark matter collide?

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The discussion centers on the interaction between black holes and dark matter, exploring theoretical implications and the nature of both phenomena. Participants examine the potential outcomes of a collision between these entities and the challenges in detecting them.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the energetic reaction that might occur if black holes and dark matter come into contact, suggesting that such an event could be detectable.
  • Another participant discusses the classification of dark matter as cold dark matter (CDM) versus hot dark matter, mentioning that current favored candidates for CDM include neutralinos and axions, which interact only gravitationally and may not produce detectable effects when absorbed by black holes.
  • A participant raises the question of whether CDM and black holes are proven concepts, noting the challenges in measuring black holes due to their gravitational pull preventing escape of information.
  • One participant states that black holes are inferred from their interactions with nearby matter, citing the existence of a supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way as evidence.
  • Another participant mentions historical challenges to Newton-Einstein theory in relation to dark matter, referencing debates from the 1980s.
  • A participant speculates about the existence of a larger black hole around which galaxies might revolve, suggesting that dark matter could eventually be absorbed by black holes if it comes close enough.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the nature and detection of dark matter and black holes, with no consensus reached on their status as proven phenomena or the implications of their interactions.

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Some claims depend on specific definitions of dark matter and black holes, and the discussion includes unresolved questions about the nature of gravitational interactions and the limits of current observational techniques.

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Just a question on these two topics. If these two objects are so hard to find but they supposedly exist(escpesially dark matter in large amounts). What would the result be if these two came into contact with one another. Would there not be an energetic reaction and would we not be able to detect this?
 
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There was always a debate about if dark matter was really cold dark matter or hot dark matter, but the WMap sattellite pointed that the favourite candidate is CDM. There are various particles candidates for CDM, neutralinos and axions are the two more mentioned, (axions could even exist forming the so-called axion clusters).
Axions and neutralinos interact only gravitationally, thus are very difficult to detect. Their difference in mass is appreciable, the neutralino is 100 times heavier than the proton, and the axion has one-trillionth the mass of the electron. However, they do not have other appreciable characteristic, so its absortion by a black hole could not cause any appreciable effect.
 
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Question, is CDM only a theory or is it proven and measurable? Had a hot debate with someone about this the other night... same question with black holes, are black holes proven? It was my understanding they aren't, b'c even if we sent a probe or something of the like into to gain measurement information, it wouldn't not be able to get out b'c it cannot escape the gravitational force of the black hole.
 
Black holes are "seen" by their interactions with nearby matter. There is believed to be a gigantic (several million solar masses) one at the center of our galaxy. Check with science news type websites today or tommorow (Spacenow for one).

Non-baryonic (dark) matter is inferred from gravitational effects. For example galaxies are spiinning too fast to be able to stay together on the amount of baryonic matter present.
 
Dark matter has been around for ages. Has anyone challenged the Newton-Einstein theory? I actually know there has been in the 1980's by some Milgrim or some guy.
 
I have looked into the "black hole in the middle of our galaxy". This proved to be promising, it explains how galaxies hold together and how our universe moves around. Because of this I am to assume that there is again a larger "black Hole" that the many galaxies revolve around. Scientists are far from that next step but I'd love to know where exactly it all ends or if it continues farther. I believe that if the dark matter came in close enough range to the black hole that it would become part of the hole as everything else seems to, including stars.
 

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