Dielectric sphere - Find the electric field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field and potential of a dielectric sphere with free charge density. The electric field inside the sphere is derived using Gauss's law, resulting in E = [rho*r /(3*e_0*e_r)]* r hat, while the field outside is E = [rho*R³]/[3*e_0*r²] * r hat. Participants emphasize the importance of considering both free and bound charge densities when applying Gauss's law in dielectric materials. The influence of the dielectric constant e_r and charge density rho on the electric field is also highlighted, particularly how they affect the total charge Q. The discussion concludes with suggestions to utilize the electric displacement vector for a more comprehensive understanding of the electric field in dielectrics.
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Consider a dielectric sphere of radius R and dielectric constant e_r. The sphere contains
free charges that have been uniformly distributed with density rho.

(a) Show that electric field inside the sphere is given by
E = [rho*r /(3*e_0*e_r)]* r hat

where r hat is the unit vector pointing in the radial direction.

(b) Show that the electric field outside the sphere is
E = [rho*R³]/[3*e_0*r²] * r hat

(c) Calculate the potential V at the centre of the sphere compared to that at infinity.

Any tips/hints that can help start me off will be appreciated.
 
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Start with Gauss' law. Try to calculate how E varies with the radius of your spherical Gaussian surface.

Claude.
 
well gauss' law is just integral of E.dA = Q/e_0 since we have a sphere the SA is just 4*pi*r^2 so it gives E = Q/[4*pi*e_0*R^2].

How does the density rho and dielectric constant e_r affect/influence this?

Thanks everyone for helping.
 
Qyzren said:
well gauss' law is just integral of E.dA = Q/e_0 since we have a sphere the SA is just 4*pi*r^2 so it gives E = Q/[4*pi*e_0*R^2].

How does the density rho and dielectric constant e_r affect/influence this?

Thanks everyone for helping.

Use the Guass's law in presence of dielectrics.
Within the dielectric the total charge density can be written as:
\rho = \rho_b + \rho_f
where \rho_b[/tex] is the bound charge and \rho_f is the free charge density resp.<br /> The Gauss&#039;s law will be modified accordingly. Read up on the <b>electric displacement</b> vector and you can easily find the solution.
 
Qyzren said:
well gauss' law is just integral of E.dA = Q/e_0 since we have a sphere the SA is just 4*pi*r^2 so it gives E = Q/[4*pi*e_0*R^2].

How does the density rho and dielectric constant e_r affect/influence this?

It influences it because you don't know what Q is. As you have written it Q is the source of the electric field E, i.e. the true and total Q (both bound and otherwise). But you don't know Q because you only know the *free* charge density.

Luckily, gauss' law will work for the electric displacement too with
<br /> \int \vec D \cdot \vec dA = Q_{\textrm{free}}^{\textrm{enclosed}}<br />
 
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...and you also have the definition (for a linear dielectric) that
<br /> \epsilon_r\epsilon_0 \vec E = \vec D<br />

So, use what's in my first post to solve for D and then just divide to get E

...I might not have all the factors right since I am used to using Guassian units... but I think I got the placements of the epsilons correct...
 
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