Ladder network.attenuator chain?

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In summary: That's the value of R, the resistance that doesn't change as more rungs are added.In summary, the problem involves finding the equivalent resistance between terminals A and B in an infinite ladder network of series and parallel resistors. The input resistance (R) remains unchanged when adding more resistors to the front end of the chain, leading to a quadratic equation that can be solved for R. The voltage at successive nodes decreases in a geometric series, with the ratio required for the resistors to halve the voltage at every step being (R + √(R^2 + 4R2))/2. The problem also discusses the
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Homework Statement



I apologize for my crappy diagramming.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4427/ladderwd4.jpg

The problem text exactly: "Some important kinds of networks are infinite in extent. The figure shows a chain of series and parallel resistors stretching off endlessly to the right. The line at the bottom is the resistanceless return wire for all of them. This is sometimes called an attenuator chain, or a ladder network. The problem is to find the "input resistance," that is, the equivalent resistance between terminals A and B. Our interest in this problem mainly concerns the method of solution, which takes an odd twist and which can be used in other places in physics where we have an iteration of identical devices (even an infinite chain of lenses, in optics). The point is that the input resistance which we do not yet know - call it R - will not be changed by adding a new set of resistors to the front end of the chain to make it one unit longer. But now, adding this section, we see that this new input resistance is just R_1 in series with the parallel combination of R_2 and R. We get immediately an equation that can be solved for R. Show that, if voltage V_0 is applied at the input to such a chain, the voltage at successive nodes decreases in a geometric series. What ratio is required for the resistors to make the ladder an attenuator that halves the voltage at every step? Obviously a truly infinite ladder would not be practical. Can you suggest a way to terminate it after a few sections without introducing any error in its attenuation?"

Whew, that's a mouthful, sorry you have to read through that. Basically, if I'm correct, I'm find the R_eq (R?) at each node which will follow some pattern, and apply that to find the voltage at each node. If I do the first few, they should show some geometric series pattern, which I can apply to find a ratio required to halve the voltage at every step. (I have no idea on the last question :confused:)

Homework Equations



R_series = R_1 + R_2 +...+R_n
R_parallel = (1/R_1 + 1/R_2 +...+1/R_n)^-1

The Attempt at a Solution



What I don't understand, which is stopping me from starting the problem, is how I'm supposed to find the R_eq. The bolded part about how R somehow affects itself (?) confuses me.

If I ignore that then:
R_eq of one "unit" = R_1 + R_2
R_eq of two "units" = R_1 + (1/(R_1 + R_2) + 1/R_2)^-1 = (2 + R_b)*R_eq of one "unit"
R_eq of three "units" = really messy

If I consider that statement:
R_eq (of one unit?) = R_1 + (1/R_2 + 1/R_eq)^-1 = eventually something quadratic that looks like (R_1 + sqrt(R_1^2 + 4R_1R_2))/2 (is my interpretation correct at all?)
R_eq of two "units" = even messier quadratic

I'd love a kick in the right direction as to what my Rs are supposed to be, I can definitely figure out the rest of the problem from there (except for the last question) I think. I don't how R "isn't changed by adding a new set of resistors" and yet "the new resistance will be ..." but I figure that both ways of trying have to be wrong since everything is coming out so messy. Thanks a bunch for reading through this.
 
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Neat question!

Try redrawing the diagram the way the question explains the effect of adding another rung to the ladder: swivel R1 until it is vertically above R2. What have you got now? A resistance of R1 in series with (R2 and R in parallel). The first answer, R, is simply the resistance of that arrangement of resistors ...
 
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I would respond by saying that your approach to finding the input resistance of the ladder network is correct. However, the key to solving this problem lies in understanding how the input resistance remains unchanged when a new set of resistors is added to the front end of the chain. This is because the new input resistance is simply the original input resistance in series with the parallel combination of the new resistors and the original input resistance. So, in your equations, R_1 and R_2 should be the new resistors added, while R_eq should be the original input resistance. This will simplify your calculations and allow you to see the pattern more clearly.

Furthermore, in order to find the voltage at each node, you can use the voltage divider rule, which states that the voltage at a node is equal to the total voltage (V_0) multiplied by the ratio of the resistance of the branch connected to that node to the total resistance of the circuit. In this case, the total resistance of the circuit is the input resistance (R_eq), and the resistance of the branch connected to a particular node is the sum of all the resistors between that node and the input (R_1, R_2, etc.).

Finally, for the last question, you can terminate the ladder network by adding a load resistor at the end of the chain. This will ensure that the voltage at the last node is the desired output voltage. The load resistor can be calculated using the voltage divider rule mentioned above, where the voltage at the last node is known and the total resistance is the input resistance plus the load resistor.

I hope this helps guide you in the right direction. Remember, as a scientist, it's important to always question and understand the underlying principles behind a problem in order to solve it effectively. Good luck!
 

1. What is a ladder network attenuator chain?

A ladder network attenuator chain is a type of electronic circuit that is used to reduce the strength of an electrical signal. It consists of a series of resistors connected in a specific pattern, resembling a ladder, which allows for precise control of the signal attenuation.

2. How does a ladder network attenuator chain work?

A ladder network attenuator chain works by using a series of resistors to divide the input signal into smaller portions, which are then combined to create an output signal with a lower amplitude. The ratio of the resistors determines the amount of attenuation achieved.

3. What are the advantages of using a ladder network attenuator chain?

One advantage of using a ladder network attenuator chain is its ability to provide precise and predictable attenuation levels. It also has a wide frequency range and can handle high power signals without distortion. Additionally, it is a relatively simple and cost-effective design.

4. What are the applications of ladder network attenuator chains?

Ladder network attenuator chains are commonly used in electronic systems where precise control of signal strength is needed, such as in audio and radio equipment. They are also used in telecommunications, radar systems, and in instrumentation and testing equipment.

5. Are there any limitations to using a ladder network attenuator chain?

One limitation of ladder network attenuator chains is that they can introduce noise and signal distortion, especially at higher attenuation levels. Additionally, their design may be limited by the available resistors and their tolerances, which can affect the accuracy of the attenuation.

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