Equivalance Relations Could some one check my work please?

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The discussion revolves around equivalence relations and their representation through partitions and matrices. Participants are examining specific examples of equivalence classes and seeking verification of their solutions, as well as clarification on the properties of equivalence relations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Post 1 presents two partitions and asks for the equivalence classes and the corresponding matrix representation of the relations.
  • Post 2 confirms the correctness of Post 1's equivalence classes and provides a method for constructing the matrix for one of the examples, noting properties of reflexivity and symmetry.
  • Post 3 questions the specific equivalence of elements in the provided examples, seeking clarification on why certain pairs are equivalent while others are not.
  • Post 4 challenges the accuracy of the matrix provided in Post 2, asserting that the relationships described are incorrect for the example given.
  • Post 6 introduces a new relation defined by an ordering and presents a matrix for this relation, seeking validation of the solution.
  • Post 7 confirms the correctness of Post 6's matrix representation.
  • Post 8 expresses understanding and appreciation for the assistance received.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is some disagreement regarding the accuracy of the equivalence relationships and the matrices presented, particularly between Posts 2 and 4. However, participants generally agree on the methods for constructing the matrices and the properties of equivalence relations.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the specific relationships in the examples provided, particularly in the context of Post 2's matrix and the claims made in Post 4. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the equivalence relations based on the given partitions.

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Question, List the members of the equivalance relation on {1,2,3,4,5} by the given partition. Identify the equivalance classes
A) {(1,2,3),(4,5)}
B) {(1),(2,4),(5,3)}

My solution is;
A) {(1,1),(1,2),(1,3),(2,2),(2,1),(2,3),(3,1),(3,2),(3,3),(4,4),(4,5),(5,4),(5,5)}

B) {(1),(2,2),(2,4),(4,2),(4,4),(3,3),(3,5),(5,5),(5,3)}

Then the next qusetion for which I don't know where to begin is;
For the above (A and B) find the matrix of the relation from X to X. Show the ordering that you are using :confused:

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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What you have is correct. For the "matrix" question, do this:
List all members of X across the top and vertically on the left on your paper. For each intersection, IF the member of X on the left IS equivalent to the member on the top, write "1", otherwise write "0".

For B (the easier of the two) this is

Code:
    1   2   3   4   5
1   1   0   0   0   0
2   0   1   0   1   0
3   0   0   1   0   1 
4   0   1   0   1   0
5   0   0   1   0   1
The matrix is
[1 0 0 0 0]
[0 1 0 1 0]
[0 0 1 0 1]
[0 1 0 1 0]
[0 0 1 0 1]

The diagonal is all 1s because an equivalence relation is reflexive and the matrix is symmetric because an equivalence relation is symmetric. The number of 1s in each row and column is the number of elements equivalent to that member.
 
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Thank you but if its not too much trouble why is it that 1 and 2 as in the first "1" is equivalent but not 1 and 3?
 
First of all his horizontal row is just a space off, 1 is not related to 2 in example B. Just like 1 is not related to 3 in example B. He didn't do example A.
 
Thank you now I see it.
 
I long the same lines could some one check this?

R={(x,y)|x<y};ordering of X:1,2,3,4

My solution is;
? 1 2 3 4
1 0 1 1 1
2 0 0 1 1
3 0 0 0 1
4 0 0 0 0

[0 1 1 1]
[0 0 1 1]
[0 0 0 1]
[0 0 0 0]

OK?
 
Yes (It won't let me post less than 10 letters!)
 
Kool I think I get it. Thank you
 

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