What is the method for finding motion in a central potential field?

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The problem involves analyzing the motion of a body in a central potential field defined by a specific potential function. The potential includes terms that depend on the inverse of the radial distance and its square, with constants that are positive.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to utilize conservation laws and separate variables to derive an integral related to the motion. Some participants suggest using differential equations to reformulate the problem, specifically focusing on the relationship between radial and angular motion.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to reformulate the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of differential equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

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Participants are grappling with the complexity of the integrals involved and are seeking alternative methods to simplify the analysis. There is a focus on transitioning from time derivatives to angular derivatives, indicating a potential shift in the approach to the problem.

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The problem is to find the motion of a body in a central potential field with potential given by:

[tex]V(r)=-\frac{\alpha}{r}+\frac{\beta}{r^{2}}[/tex]

where [tex]\alpha[/tex] and [tex]\beta[/tex] are positive constants.

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I used the fact that energy and angular momentum are conserved in this field, and after separating variables in the equation for [tex]\dot{\vec{r}}[/tex] I got an integral of the form: ([tex]\phi[/tex] is the angle)

[tex]\phi = \int{\frac{dr}{\sqrt{Ar^{3}-Br^{2}+C}}}[/tex]

where A, B, C are constants dependent on mass, energy and angular momentum of the body.

Is there a simpler method to find the motion [tex]r(\phi)[/tex], without having to calculate such awful integrals? And if not, how to calculate it?
 
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Yes, I think there is. Note that you have two differential equations: one first order and one second order (the Lagrange equation). Hint: use the second order. But since you are interested in the shape, you need to change from time derivatives to derivatives wrt [itex]\phi[/itex]. Question: what is the relationship between [itex]\dot{r}[/itex] and [itex]r'(\phi)[/itex]? Answering this question will lead you to a differential equation for your trajectory.
 
Could you be more specific? I don't see how we can get beyond what I've written above using the second order equation.
 
You need to use the fact that [itex]\dot{r} = \dot{\phi}r'(\phi)[/itex]. Use this to eliminate all derivatives wrt time in your Lagrange equation. But before you do, what is [itex]\dot{\phi}[/itex]?
 

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