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Dec29-07, 06:49 AM   #1
 

Integral Syntax Question


Is the following syntax correct?

[tex] dx = v\ dt [/tex]
[tex] x = \int v\ dt [/tex]

or should it be:

[tex] dx = v \ dt[/tex]
[tex] dx = \int v \ dt [/tex]
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Dec29-07, 06:53 AM   #2
 
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Quote by konik View Post
Is the following syntax correct?

[tex] dx = v\ dt [/tex]
[tex] x = \int v\ dt [/tex]
This is OK. Realize that this is just saying that:
[tex] \int \ dx = x [/tex]

or should it be:

[tex] dx = v \ dt[/tex]
[tex] dx = \int v \ dt [/tex]
That's no good--you must integrate both sides.
Dec29-07, 06:56 AM   #3
 
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The first. Obviously, the two right sides of the second are not the same and cannot both be equal to dx.

What you are doing is starting with dx= v dt and integrating both sides:
[itex]\int x= \int v dt[/itex]. Since [itex]\int dx= x[/itex] the result is [itex]x= \int v dt[/itex].

(The integral is not "well defined" so that should be [itex]x= \int v dt+ C[/itex].)
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Dec29-07, 07:25 PM   #4
 
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Integral Syntax Question


Quote by HallsofIvy View Post

The integral is not "well defined" so that should be [itex]x= \int v dt+ C[/itex]
We don't really need to include the additional C, since indefinite integrals are only unique up to a additive constant anyway.
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Yes, of course. The anti-derivative of [itex]x^2[/itex] is [itex]\int x^2 dx[/itex] which is, itself, equal to [itex](1/3)x^3+ C[/itex]. It is only in the last that we need the "C".
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Actually, I prefer to think of
[tex]\int v \, dt[/tex]
as notation where the [itex]\int dt [/itex] is a single symbol.
The equation
[tex]dx = v dt[/tex]
wouldn't make sense then but can be written
[tex]dx/dt = v[/tex]
or considered as a limit.

(Of course, I also use them as mnemonics and manipulate them as ordinary fractions, but sometimes it's good to keep things clear and separate legal operations from convenient notation).
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