How do General Relativity and the concept of the graviton relate to each other?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between General Relativity (GR) and the concept of the graviton, exploring how these ideas intersect within the context of gravity, quantum mechanics, and theoretical physics.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how General Relativity, which describes gravity as a curvature of space-time due to matter, relates to the graviton, a proposed particle in quantum gravity.
  • Another participant asserts that the graviton is not connected to General Relativity since it is part of quantum gravity, which lacks a verified theory linking it to GR.
  • A question is raised about whether the discovery of the graviton would imply that General Relativity is incorrect.
  • A response clarifies that finding a graviton would not invalidate General Relativity but rather suggest progress toward unifying Quantum Mechanics and GR, emphasizing that any new theory must align with GR's successful predictions.
  • One participant argues that the success of a theory does not necessarily depend on its connection to physical reality, using wave-particle duality as an example of how different models can be useful in different contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between General Relativity and the graviton, with some asserting a lack of connection while others suggest potential implications for unifying theories. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of discovering a graviton.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the speculative nature of quantum gravity and the graviton, indicating that the discussion is framed by the current limitations in theoretical physics and the absence of a verified theory linking these concepts.

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Hello all,

I seem to be misunderstanding a concept; perhaps someone could point me in the right direction. My knowledge of physics is very basic so please have some sympathy. Thanks

General relativity shows that gravity is caused by the presence of matter that curves space-time. But now I read of gravity having a particle called the graviton. How do these two ideas link?
 
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They don't. Since the graviton is a assumption of Quantum gravity it is not tied to GR by a verified theory. Much work is being done to attempt to detect a graviton as this would go along ways toward verifying Quantum Gravity.
 
So if they find the graviton it would mean that General relativity is wrong?
 
No, It would mean that we are closer to being able to tie Quantum Mechanics and GR together. What ever theory evolves will have to agree with the successful predictions of GR. Just like SR extended rather then replaced Newtonian Mechanics.
 
The success of a theory does not need to have any tie to a physical reality. It helps in visualising the effects if it does but if you have some way of determining a property such as gravity and it works then there is no reason to dismiss it because there is no physical reality. Wave particle duality is a good example. Sometimes it is good to model an electron as a particle such as in mechanics and other times like atomic physics it is best to model it as a wave function.
 

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