Finite hyperbolic universe and large scale structure patterns

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The discussion centers on the paper "Hyperbolic Universes with a Horned Topology and the CMB Anisotropy," which proposes a universe shaped like a horn, characterized by negative curvature. It highlights the chaotic mixing of trajectories in finite hyperbolic spaces, leading to fractal structure formation, as discussed in "Chaos and order in a finite universe." The conversation also questions why Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) data does not reflect this negative curvature, despite the common assumption that the angular scale of the first peak indicates curvature. Additionally, the mention of Gabriel's Horn and Picard topology raises further inquiries about the implications of such a universe.

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  • Understanding of hyperbolic geometry and its properties
  • Familiarity with Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) anisotropies
  • Basic knowledge of chaotic systems and their implications in cosmology
  • Concept of fractals and self-similarity in large scale structures
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  • Research "CMB anisotropies and curvature" to understand the relationship between CMB data and universe shape
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  • Examine "Gabriel's Horn and its implications in cosmology" for insights into finite volume universes
  • Investigate "Picard topology" and its relevance to modern cosmological theories
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This paper :

Hyperbolic Universes with a Horned Topology and the CMB Anisotropy
http://arxiv.org/astro-ph/0403597

...press release:
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994879

proposes a universe with the shape of a horn. This is a hyperbolic space with negative curvature.

The paper mentions an interesting issue: the relation between finite hyperbolic spaces and chaos. Finite hyperbolic spaces generate chaotic mixing of trayectories, leading to fractal structure formation. See e.g.:

Chaos and order in a finite universe
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9907288

A fractal nature of large scale structures was already suggested due to the self-similarity of the distribution of galaxies and clusters (similar correlation functions AFAIK).

My knowledge of chaotic systems is almost non existent, thus I would like to know qualitatively why finite hyperbolic spaces do have such properties in relation to chaos and infinite flat spaces do not (although you can find an interesting remark in the previous cited paper about the cosmological constant in infinite flat spaces).

But there is another thing that bothers me. In the paper it is claimed that the CMB data would not reflect the negative curvature. But why? Usually it is assumed that the angular scale of the first peak of the CMB anisotropies gives a measure of the curvature.

Regards.
 
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An universe infinitely long but with finite volume: it remembers me a surface called Gabriel's Horn
And this thing called Picard topology must be an invention of F.Steiner. i did a google on "Picard topology", and only appeared 5 entries, and the 5 related to this horn-shaped-universe theory
 
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Is this like a universe that grow from a singularity infinitely in the past in an accelerated manner?
 

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