Kill Bill 2: Awesome - Movie Review

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The discussion revolves around opinions and reviews of the movie "Kill Bill 2," comparing it to its predecessor, "Kill Bill 1." Participants express their views on various aspects of the films, including music, plot, fight choreography, and overall enjoyment. The conversation includes both positive and negative critiques, reflecting a range of perspectives on the film's merits and shortcomings.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants enjoyed "Kill Bill 2" more than the first, citing its mood-setting music and character development.
  • Others criticized the second film for having less fighting and a weaker story compared to the first, describing it as boring and lacking innovation.
  • There are claims that the fight choreography in "Kill Bill 2" was not as strong, with some noting that much of the fighting was not sword-based.
  • One participant compared the film's plot to traditional blues music, suggesting it is an homage to classic revenge stories rather than a groundbreaking narrative.
  • Some participants expressed dissatisfaction with the acting and overall execution of the film, while others defended it as intentionally over-the-top and humorous.
  • A few participants noted that "Kill Bill" was originally intended to be a single film, with the first part focusing on character introductions and the second on plot development.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not agree on the quality of "Kill Bill 2," with multiple competing views on its merits and shortcomings. The discussion remains unresolved regarding whether the second film is superior or inferior to the first.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express strong opinions based on personal taste, indicating that enjoyment may vary significantly based on individual preferences for action and storytelling styles.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in film critiques, particularly those of Quentin Tarantino's work, may find this discussion relevant. It may also appeal to fans of action movies and those exploring differing opinions on sequels.

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I don't want to reveal anything about the movie, but I just saw it and liked it more than the first. The music was good, but not as good as the first movie's music. The music in the second was more subtle, simple stuff overall, much more mood setting and complementing of the movie than the music in the first movie, which was so good that it drew a lot of attention to itself. There wasn't as much fighting as the first one, but it was still awesome.

Anyway, if you liked the first one, definitely see it.
If you liked any of Tarantino's movies, rent/buy the first one, then see the second.
If you like action movies in general, rent/buy the first one, then see the second.
If you like movies at all, and can stand a good deal of violence, rent/buy the first one, then see the second.
 
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Answer one question. At the beginning of the first one before she was shot, did she say that the baby was bills?
 
I honestly did not enjoy the first movie. What the heck was the plot, a lady wants revenge after bill kills her family at a wedding. Now she goes on a rampage killing people for hours. I like Tarantino, but this is just so weak and I refuse to see a movie just because of a director.
 
Was the sword fights better than the first?
 
Kill Bill did not have a strong story.

It did not have great acting. It was all over-the-top silly stuff.

It did not have great fight choreography.

It did nothing new or innovative.

It did have lots of blood and such. That's really about all it had. Now, that's okay, if you like that sort of thing. But I've seen $10,000 B-grade horror movies that did the exact same thing. If someone is spending millions to make a movie, I expect a bit more from it.
 
Now we're talking movies, Oceans 12 is going to be filmed in Amsterdam I just heard, cool :cool:
 
I enjoyed Ocean's 11, But a casino heist that big won't get undetected. I wonder what they're going to rob next...
 
nbo10 said:
Answer one question. At the beginning of the first one before she was shot, did she say that the baby was bills?
Yep

Chrono said:
Was the sword fights better than the first?
Not really, there wasn't nearly as much fighting in general, and a lot of the fighting was without swords.

Adam said:
Kill Bill did not have a strong story.

It did not have great acting. It was all over-the-top silly stuff.

It did not have great fight choreography.

It did nothing new or innovative.

It did have lots of blood and such. That's really about all it had. Now, that's okay, if you like that sort of thing. But I've seen $10,000 B-grade horror movies that did the exact same thing. If someone is spending millions to make a movie, I expect a bit more from it.

I view Kill Bill in the same light I would a good blues album. The blues as the music form we know it as, has been around for close to 100 years, depending on who you ask. The premise of blues has changed little, if any, throughout it's lifetime as a genre. The blues is relatively simple to play, and there are many artists out there that sound so simmilar you can't tell them apart from each other. a lot of different ways of playing the blues have been tried, and for new artists to get widely recognized, they either have to innovate in some way, or play traditionally, but just better than most others.

Kill Bill's plot of Revenge has been done in Westerns and Martial Arts movies for a while. As I view it, Kill Bill is pretty much an homage to these kinds of movies in terms of plot. While the story isn't as unusual as something like Pulp Fiction, I feel that Tarantino does a great job with a tired story line, something that's often harder to do than to be innovative.

I didn't see any bad acting in Kill Bill at all. Yeah there was a lot of goofy stuff, but if you don't like what the actors did, it's Tarantino's fault for making them do it. If you read/saw interviews with Tarantino, it became obvious that a lot of the movie wasn't meant to be serious, and it's over the top goofyness/phonyness was meant as a tribute to B list Kung Fu films and Spaghetti Westerns he saw as a kid.

Your complaint about the choreography could be explained as it wasn't meant to be taken seriously and compared to the great fight scenes of all time, but to be fun and goofy, in a twisted way.

Again, it didn't innovate, but I felt it used a burnt out premise very well.

The second had considerably less fighting in general and more plot/character development, I can't recall more than 3 deaths and 1 mutilation.


You seem to be a very critical movie-watcher, one who analyzes and dissects everything about the movie, and for people like you, I guess movies can't have serious and humorous/goofy elements in it at once. However, for people that can just sit back and take a movie at face value, without thinking about how much it cost to make and what that money is getting you, the movie was very fun and well worth the $9.50
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
I honestly did not enjoy the first movie. What the heck was the plot, a lady wants revenge after bill kills her family at a wedding. Now she goes on a rampage killing people for hours. I like Tarantino, but this is just so weak and I refuse to see a movie just because of a director.

Kill Bill was initially meant to be a single movie, but was too long and cut into 2 parts. The first part bassically is the explanation of characters and their deaths, and the second part is more history and character/plot development, and focuses much less on fighting than the first. If you like Tarantino, I would give the whole movie a chance and possibly rent it when it comes out or something. It'd be a bit unfair to judge Pulp Fiction if all you saw was Uma's overdose, the rape scene, Travolta blowing that guy's head off in the car and Jackson shooting everyone up in the appartment, as I feel it's unfair to judge Kill Bill with only seeing one part of it.
 
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i just seen kill bill vol 2 last night

and i have to give it to you...that movie was the ****tiest most boring movie i'v seen in a while...like wow..i seen the first one and it was 827891728931731987 times better...better fighting...better swrod fights...better music...better everything, i was expecting the same from vol.2, but no this one was over the hill boring, there's only like 3 fights in the whole movie...and there was like 2 cool parts out of 2 hours.

DO NOT GO SEE IT UNLESS U CAN SIT THROUGH IT TO SEE THE END


ps. the ending was OKAY
 
  • #11
I really enjoyed it. I can't say I really liked the first, but I was very impressed with the second.
 
  • #12
I have to wait to see Kill Bill 1...
 

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