Really looking for new light data

  • Thread starter Thread starter automaton
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Data Light
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the search for new data on light, particularly regarding its speed and behavior in different mediums. Participants explore concepts related to the speed of light, including potential acceleration and deceleration, as well as the implications for Einstein's theories.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for new light data and requests links to relevant information.
  • Another participant questions the vagueness of "light data" and asks for more specific details.
  • A participant mentions hearing about light being accelerated past the speed of light in a gas and also decelerated, raising questions about the implications for Einstein's theories.
  • One participant doubts the possibility of light traveling faster than c, suggesting that while signals can be manipulated to appear faster, the actual light does not exceed this speed.
  • Another participant discusses the apparent speed of light in different mediums, explaining that light travels at c in a vacuum but appears to travel slower in other materials due to absorption and reemission processes.
  • A participant mentions that recent experiments suggest the possibility of faster-than-light effects, which could challenge existing arguments about light behavior.
  • One participant requests links or databases related to light speed experimentation.
  • A later reply references a physics magazine article about a light pulse being frozen in a Bose-Einstein condensate, indicating interest in experimental findings related to light.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the possibility of light exceeding its constant speed, with some expressing skepticism about such claims. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives on the behavior of light and its implications for theoretical frameworks.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various experimental findings and theoretical implications without reaching consensus on the validity or interpretation of these claims. The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of light in different states and mediums.

automaton
Messages
10
Reaction score
0
thanks for responding
im am really looking for new light data
id appreciate any links
 
Science news on Phys.org
Any details?
Light data is rather vague.
 
c still constant/ any voids einstein theories

hi
i saw somewhere light was accelerated in a gas past the einstein velocity
my friend and i both heard on the radio light had been also decelerated


mathwise I am in algebraville i read physics notions all year

a lot of quantum theory

got any data

if these lightspeed changes occurred would they alter/invalidate einstein
and any data with an immutable light constant
[zz)]
 
I doubt that light beyond c (that's what you mean, right?) thing. They have manage to use interference etc to push a signal over c, but that isn't exactly the same thing. An analogy to to swing a torch. If it was aimed at a wall a long way away, the spot on the wall would travel faster than the speed of light. But the light itself did not. So it is doubtful whether this can transfer any real information.

As to below c... Well, that is in fact only the APPARENT speed of light. The process of refraction works because light travels apparently at different speeds in different mediums. So, only in a vacuum does it travel measurably at c. In other mediums, light travels at c in the "gaps" between particles, but time is lost in absorption/reemission when the light hits the particles, lowering the overall speed.
 
Originally posted by FZ+
I doubt that light beyond c (that's what you mean, right?) thing. They have manage to use interference etc to push a signal over c, but that isn't exactly the same thing. An analogy to to swing a torch. If it was aimed at a wall a long way away, the spot on the wall would travel faster than the speed of light. But the light itself did not. So it is doubtful whether this can transfer any real information.

It is noteworthy here that the same principle that led to the faster than C experiments in the last few years also implies that the effect will hold for a single photon. This of course would mean that shadow effect arguments fail. To my knowledge this issue remains unresolved.
 
info on light experiments?

would you have any links or databases you can send me to

pertaining to light speed experimentation
 
I've recently read in a physics magazine that a light pulse was frozen to a hault by sending it through curtain gases at extremely low temperatures. I believe the low temperature gas state is called the Bose-einstein condensate.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
6K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 25 ·
Replies
25
Views
4K
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 24 ·
Replies
24
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
4K