Moment of Inertia and anemometer

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia of an anemometer, which consists of four metal cups mounted on rods. The problem involves understanding the configuration of the rods and how to apply the moment of inertia formula for point masses in a rotational system.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the formula for moment of inertia and the correct distance to the axis of rotation. There is uncertainty about whether to use the full length of the rods or half, leading to various interpretations of the setup.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem setup, particularly regarding the configuration of the rods. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the moment of inertia formula, but there is still a lack of consensus on the correct distance to the axis of rotation.

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The problem does not clearly define the arrangement of the rods, leading to confusion about the appropriate distance to use in calculations. This ambiguity affects the participants' ability to arrive at a correct solution.

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An anemometer for measuring wind speed consists of four metal cups, each of mass m = 146 g, mounted on the ends of essentially massless rods of length L = 0.3 m. The rods are at right angles to each other and the structure rigidly rotates at f = 12 rev/s. Treat the cups as point masses.

a) What is the moment of inertia of the anemometer about the axis of rotation?

I know moment of inertia is calculated by the sum of masses times distance to axis of rotation. I tried to substitute (L^2)/2 as my distance to the rotational axis, and I know it's 4 times each mass, (I also converted to kg) so I got 0.0827 but it's not correct. Any help would be appreciated
 

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masamune said:
I know moment of inertia is calculated by the sum of masses times distance to axis of rotation.
Not true. The rotational inertia of a point mass is I = mR2, where R is the distance to the axis.
I tried to substitute (L^2)/2 as my distance to the rotational axis, and I know it's 4 times each mass, (I also converted to kg) so I got 0.0827 but it's not correct.
I don't know if R = L or L/2, since I don't know how "rod" is defined: are there two rods or four?

In this case, the total I = 4mR2.
 
Doc Al said:
Not true. The rotational inertia of a point mass is I = mR2, where R is the distance to the axis.

I don't know if R = L or L/2, since I don't know how "rod" is defined: are there two rods or four?

In this case, the total I = 4mR2.

The picture shows four rods. Yeah sorry I meant MR^2, basically I used pythagorem theorem and I found that R^2 equals 2(L/2)^2 which simplifies to (L^2)/2. I still can't solve the problem though because I don't know how to define the distance from each of the point mass to the axis of rotation.
 
masamune said:
The picture shows four rods.
Is it four rods of length L? Or two rods of length L attached in the middle?
Yeah sorry I meant MR^2, basically I used pythagorem theorem and I found that R^2 equals 2(L/2)^2 which simplifies to (L^2)/2.
Why are you using the pythagorean theorem??

If there are four rods of length L, then the distance to the axis is L.
 
Doc Al said:
Is it four rods of length L? Or two rods of length L attached in the middle?

That's a really good question... :biggrin: unfortunately the question doesn't make it clear...can you explain to me though how I would go about trying each setup-both 2 rods connected at the center or 4 rods connected. Thank you.
Why are you using the pythagorean theorem??

If there are four rods of length L, then the distance to the axis is L.[/QUOTE]
I tried just squaring L and plugging it into our I equation (4ML^2) but it still registers as incorrect...sorry for all the grief doc.
 
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masamune said:
I tried just squaring L and plugging it into our I equation (4ML^2) but it still registers as incorrect...sorry for all the grief doc.
The equation is I = 4MR^2. Try assuming that R = L/2.
 
Yup! That worked. Thanks a lot for your patience
 

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