Calculate Amplitude of SHM for Block Connected to Spring and Embedded Bullet

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The problem involves a block connected to a spring on a frictionless table, where a bullet embeds itself in the block. The objective is to calculate the amplitude of the resulting simple harmonic motion (SHM) after the collision.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Energy conservation

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the final velocity of the block after the bullet embeds itself, using conservation of momentum. They also explore angular frequency and period but express uncertainty about the next steps to find amplitude.
  • Some participants suggest focusing on energy conservation, indicating that the kinetic energy of the system converts to potential energy at maximum displacement.

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Participants are exploring different approaches to the problem, with some emphasizing the importance of energy conservation over the initial calculations of velocity and frequency. Guidance has been offered to simplify the approach by using energy arguments.

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The discussion reflects a learning environment where participants are navigating through various concepts related to simple harmonic motion and energy conservation, with some expressing confusion about the complexity of their initial methods.

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A 35.0 kg block at rest on a horizontal frictionless table is connected to the wall via a spring with a spring constant k=25.0 N/m. A 3.60×10-2 kg bullet traveling with a speed of 490 m/s embeds itself in the block. What is the amplitude of the resulting simple harmonic motion?


Okay.
So If I'm not mistaken, we're looking for Amplitude or Max displacement.

What I did first was try to find the intial velocity of the block with :

V= ((m_1)/(m_1+m_2))*V_1_i

V_1_i = 490 m/s
m_1 = .036 kg
m_2 = 35 kg

I got apprx. .5 m/s for the final object which weighs 35.036 kg.

i then found angular frequency with :

w^2= (k/m)

Then if found the period:

w= (2*pi/T)

With the period i found the frequency:

T = (1/f)

.. this is kinda where i get stuck ..
I then assumed the time it takes to get to the max displacement is half of the period. I don't know if i can do that, but i did : ).

And even after assuming that, I'm stuck.

I think my knowns are, Velocity, Mass, Angular frequency, Spring constant, Period, frequency, and time.

Did i do something wrong, If not, where can i go from here to find the amplitude?
 
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You started off correctly, but your subsequent steps are not necessary to solve this problem. Try using the idea that energy is conserved (remember, no friction). So, you've got a mass (the block+bullet) with some initial velocity (that you got from conservation of momentum). At maximum displacement (which will be equal to the amplitude of the SHM), the kinetic energy will be zero (the block has momentarily stopped moving) and there will be some potential energy (given by .5kx2). That ought to be all the info you need to find the answer. Post back if you need more help.
 
Edit: What james said.

Don't worry about all that stuff.

You correctly got the velocity of the block, so that's good. But once you get that, use an energy argument. All of the kinetic energy is converted to elastic potential energy at the point of maximum displacement.

cookiemonster
 
Thanks, a lot I got it.. We're learning new stuff fast, so I just assumed we were supposed to use maybe the new Energy equations involving all those little variables. Totally forgot about the simpler equations.

Thanks a lot both of you.
 

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