Curious about the open system interconnect model

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Open Systems Interconnection (OSI) model, focusing on its layers, their relationship to hardware and software, data packaging for transmission, and potential improvements to the model. Participants explore both theoretical and practical aspects of the OSI model in networking.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions which layers of the OSI model are related to both hardware and software, suggesting that the Data Link layer fits this description.
  • Another participant states that the OSI model does not "package" data but serves as a framework for developing compatible networking protocols and hardware.
  • There is a belief among some participants that the OSI model is beneficial for standardization in IT, although its perfection is questioned.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to improve the OSI model, citing the extensive collaboration that went into its development.
  • Discussion includes the assertion that while many modern computer platforms and network interface cards (NICs) adhere to the OSI model, standalone computers not communicating with other nodes do not utilize it.
  • Another participant asks about the data transfer process between layers and how each layer affects the data.
  • A later reply provides a link to a tutorial on the OSI model, suggesting it may clarify some questions raised in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the OSI model's effectiveness and its relationship to hardware and software. There is no consensus on potential improvements to the model, and questions about data transfer between layers remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the OSI model's role in standardization and compatibility but do not resolve the complexities of its application or the specifics of data transfer processes.

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I'm curious about the open system interconnect model. I was wondering which layers of the OSI model are both hardware and software related? How does the OSI model package the data for transmission?
I don't believe that the OSI model is perfect, what do you think could improve it?

Do all computer platforms and OS use the OSI model?
 
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I was wondering which layers of the OSI model are both hardware and software related?

I have never thought about it in that way. The Data Link layer incorporates both hardware and software. I do not believe any of the other layers do.

How does the OSI model package the data for transmission?

The OSI model doesn’t “package” anything. It is just a model, developed by the International Organization of Standardization, which gives manufactures a standard to go by when developing protocols and network hardware. The OSI model helps companies develop networking devices that are compatible with another companies’ products without the companies having to know or communicate with each other.

I have heard a lot of folks complain about the lack of standards in IT, so I do think the OSI model is definitely a good thing. I use it often in troubleshooting or thinking on how to improve something. It helps me organize my thoughts.

I don't believe that the OSI model is perfect, what do you think could improve it?

That question is way over my head. Many, many people, within huge originations developed this model. For me alone to quickly think on how to improve it would be egotistical of me.

Do all computer platforms and OS use the OSI model?

Nowadays they do (NICS and protocols that is, the OS has little to do with it). But if you have a stand alone computer that isn’t communicating with another node then the OSI model doesn’t come into play. When a computer transmits a packet through a NIC, seven layers of information are added to the packet. Each layer conforms to the OSI model and gives the recipient computer a set of instructions on what to do with the packet. The recipient computer receives the packets, strips off the layers while following the instructions embedded within the extra layers.

You could certainly develop a protocol that doesn’t conform to the OSI model. The problem is that it would be really hard to sell because it wouldn’t be compatible with anything out on the market today.
 
When data is transferred from one layer to the next, what actually happens to it? How does each layer effect he data that is being transfered?
 
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When data is transferred from one layer to the next, what actually happens to it? How does each layer effect he data that is being transfered?
Here is a link to a great tutorial on OSI. This should answer all of your questions. If not, let me know.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/introint.htm#xtocid5
 
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