Basic Circuit Problems - KVL and KCL


by steven10137
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steven10137
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Mar9-08, 12:21 AM
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1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Find [tex]R_2[/tex] in the circuit below.




2. Relevant equations
Kirchoff's Current Law:
[tex]\sum {I_{IN} } = \sum {I_{OUT} }[/tex]

Kirchoff's Voltage Law:
[tex]\sum {V = 0}[/tex]


3. The attempt at a solution

Using KCL for the node joining the 8ohm resistor, R2 and the 1 ohm resistor:
[tex]i_1 = i_2 + 2[/tex]

Now using KVL for the shortest route down the 1 ohm resistor from the voltage source.
[tex] - 10 + 8i_1 + 2 = 0\; \Rightarrow \;i_1 = 1\;A[/tex]

From the first equation;
[tex]i_2 = i_1 - 2 = 1 - 2 = - 1\;A[/tex]


Until this point, everything seems logical, and I think it is right.

Now in order to solve for [tex]R_2[/tex] I must now use [tex]V = IR[/tex] correct?

But, am I right in saying that because the voltage is flowing in the same direction and has changed by 2V, that the potential difference = 2V. Therefore [tex]R_2 = \frac{2}{{ - 1}} = - 2\;\Omega[/tex].
Resistance can't be negative though can it?

Can someone explain the situation in simple terms or what laws govern this?
I'm happy to read further if some people can give me some hints in the right direction.

Cheers
Steven.
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CEL
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Mar9-08, 05:55 AM
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What is the voltage across the 1 ohm resistor?
R2 has one side connected with the 1 ohm resistor and the other connected to the 12V source. What is the voltage drop across it?
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Mar9-08, 06:22 AM
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What is the voltage across the 1 ohm resistor?
V=IR = (2)(1) = 2V

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R2 has one side connected with the 1 ohm resistor and the other connected to the 12V source. What is the voltage drop across it?
The Voltage drop is therefore 12 - 2 = 10V?

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Mar9-08, 07:24 AM
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Basic Circuit Problems - KVL and KCL


Knowing the voltage drop and the current through R2, you can calculate its value.
steven10137
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Mar10-08, 03:21 AM
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excellent cheers mate.

I was also shown another method today which involved more dependability on the sign conventions, but is more politically correct, yet yields the same result.
samhilton090
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Sep19-09, 10:54 PM
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resistance can never be negative
but it coming negative because direction of current taken is opposite

you can call this beauty of kvl and kcl
rjhuntington
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Jul20-10, 06:37 AM
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Quote Quote by steven10137 View Post

Resistance can't be negative though can it?
Of course the resistance cannot be negative, but the problem is resolved by realizing the direction of the current is into the common node of the resistors, not away from it.


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