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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a collision where a ram transfers its kinetic energy to a pile. The initial gravitational potential energy of the ram is calculated to be 5886J. The error identified was the incorrect assumption that kinetic energy is conserved during the collision. The correct final velocity of the pile is determined to be 7.23 m/s, based on the conservation of momentum principle, where the initial momentum of the ram is 2168 kg·m/s.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



Conservation of momentum
Conservation of Kinetic Energy
GPE
KE

The Attempt at a Solution



Ive done the first part of the question. With the second part, i thought about it this way:

If the ram is seen to have zero velocity just after impact then all of the rams kinetic energy must have been transphered to the pile, no?

In which case, having worked out the gravitational potential energy in the ram initially to be 5886J. The kinetic energy in the pile must be:

5886 = 0.5 x 300 x V^2
39.24 = V^2
6.26 = V

However apparently the answer *should* be 7.23 m/s.

Can someone tell me where i have gone wrong?

James
 
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Your mistake is in assuming that KE is conserved.
 
Ok. I worked out that the block would be traveling at 5.42m/s when it strikes the pile (using V^2= U^2 + 2as).

Now i know original momentum of the ram = 400 x 5.42 = 2168
Now if momentum is conservered: 2168 = 300 x V
V = 7.23 m/s

Oh, that's right...whoops. Thank you.
 

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