Can Statically or Magnetically Charged Materials Absorb Free Electrons from Air?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility of absorbing free electrons or ions from the air using statically or magnetically charged materials. Participants explore the theoretical implications of this idea, including the potential for energy extraction from ambient air particles and the role of specific materials in this process.

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Main Points Raised

  • Jason O questions whether statically or magnetically charged materials can absorb free electrons or ions from the air, and if any materials could naturally facilitate this process.
  • Another participant mentions an antistatic "gun" that utilizes the piezo-electric effect in quartz crystals to generate voltage through mechanical stress, suggesting a connection to energy generation.
  • Jason O expresses curiosity about the piezo-electric effect, questioning why a large crystal under constant pressure couldn't produce a continuous power supply.
  • A later reply clarifies that the piezo-electric effect only generates electricity while pressure is changing, comparing it to a bellows that stops producing energy once fully compressed.
  • One participant reflects on the notion of infinite energy sources, indicating a personal realization about the complexities involved in such concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the feasibility of absorbing free electrons or ions from the air, and there are multiple competing views regarding the energy generation potential of the piezo-electric effect.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of charged materials and the conditions under which the piezo-electric effect operates, which remain unresolved.

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Hello, I am wondering if it is possible to absorb free electrons/ions in the air using a statically charged material, or even a magnetically charged material. I've heard that putting a large antenna up high will create a charge potential but what about ripping energy out of ambient air particles? Is this possible, and if so, are there any materials that could do this naturally?

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Jason O
 
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There's an antistatic "gun" that was used to "shoot" at records to eliminate any excess charge buildup. It worked by squeezing a trigger connected to a mechanism that transferred this mechanical energy to a quartz crystal. There is an effect in crystals called the peizo-electric effect which is the response of the crystal to produce a voltage under mechanical stress.
 
Hmmmm this piezo-electric effect sounds interesting. You say it works just by applying pressure to a quartz crystal?? If that is the case, why don't they juat take a big crystal and set it under a heavy weight to generate constant power? :confused:

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Jason O
 
The crystal only releases electricity while pressure is changing. It would be like trying to put a heavy weight on top of a bellows, and use the air that comes out of the bellows to power generator. As soon as the weight has squashed the bellows down as far as it is going to, energy ceases to be released.
 
What LURCH said. One thing I have come to realize is that, whenever something seems to supply an infinite source of energy, I just don't understand it well enough.
 

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