Speed of sound versus frequency

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The speed of sound does not depend on its frequency; instead, it is determined by the elastic and inertial properties of the medium. The frequency is set by the oscillating source, while the wavelength is calculated using the formula λ = v/f. An example given is that if the speed varied with frequency, sounds from different instruments in an orchestra would arrive at different times, disrupting harmony. Some debate exists regarding the conditions under which the speed of sound might vary with frequency, particularly in non-adiabatic processes. However, in typical conditions like dry air at room temperature, the speed of sound remains consistent and closely aligns with theoretical predictions.
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My question is : does the speed of sound depend on its frequency?
All other medium conditions considered identical.
 
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pixel01 said:
My question is : does the speed of sound depend on its frequency?
All other medium conditions considered identical.
No. The frequency is set by the oscillating body which sets up the sound waves. The speed of the waves is determined by the elastic/inertial properties of medium and the wavelength is then given by \lambda= v/f.
As a practical example, think about an orchestra. If v did vary with f, the sounds from the different instruments would reach your ears at different times. The result would not be very musical:smile:
 
tonyh said:
No. The frequency is set by the oscillating body which sets up the sound waves. The speed of the waves is determined by the elastic/inertial properties of medium and the wavelength is then given by \lambda= v/f.
As a practical example, think about an orchestra. If v did vary with f, the sounds from the different instruments would reach your ears at different times. The result would not be very musical:smile:

I always thought like that, but this is what I copied from wiki:
"The medium in which a sound wave is traveling does not always respond adiabatically, and as a result the speed of sound can vary with frequency".
 
pixel01 said:
I always thought like that, but this is what I copied from wiki:
"The medium in which a sound wave is traveling does not always respond adiabatically, and as a result the speed of sound can vary with frequency".
Possibly? An adiabatic process is one that occurs so rapidly, or in a system so well insulated, such that we can consider the heat transfer (Q) to be zero. But I do not know enough about the subject to be able to judge the wiki quote. My answer applies to a simple models though- at the very least, it's a good rule of thumb.
 
air at room temperature is so close to an ideal gas that the compressions and rarefractions of sound through reasonably dry air would be nearly completely adiabatic. if it is completely adiabatic, then

P v^\gamma = \mathrm{constant}

and for diatomic gasses (air is 21% O2 and 78% N2) then \gamma = 5/2. the speed of sound is dependent on that \gamma and the measured speed of sound in air comes out very close to what the theory predicts. if the process weren't adiabatic, then there would not be the close agreement between the theory and experimental result.
 
For simple comparison, I think the same thought process can be followed as a block slides down a hill, - for block down hill, simple starting PE of mgh to final max KE 0.5mv^2 - comparing PE1 to max KE2 would result in finding the work friction did through the process. efficiency is just 100*KE2/PE1. If a mousetrap car travels along a flat surface, a starting PE of 0.5 k th^2 can be measured and maximum velocity of the car can also be measured. If energy efficiency is defined by...

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