Crystals that modify the frequency of light.

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The discussion centers around the potential of crystals that can modify the frequency of light, exploring their implications for applications such as photovoltaics and lasers. Participants express interest in the theoretical and practical aspects of these crystals, including their ability to shift light frequencies and the challenges involved in their fabrication and application.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the potential applications of frequency-modifying crystals in technology, suggesting they could lead to advancements in photovoltaics and lasers.
  • There is a recognition that while theoretical models are promising, significant research and development are needed before practical applications can be realized.
  • One participant raises the idea of using these crystals to create "cloaking" effects by bouncing back light frequencies that are not visible to the human eye, prompting further speculation on the nature of invisibility.
  • Another participant challenges the cloaking idea, stating that it would not result in true invisibility but rather an absence of light, suggesting that background masking would be necessary for real invisibility.
  • Discussions also touch on the limitations of manipulating light at micron scales and the efficiency of the processes involved, with some participants questioning the claims of 100% efficiency in the original article.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the potential of the technology but express differing views on the feasibility and implications of using these crystals for invisibility and other applications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the practical applications and limitations of the technology.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the manipulation of light relies on specific physical mechanisms, such as Bragg reflections and phonon interactions, which may impose limitations on the effectiveness of the proposed applications.

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This is an interesting new development.
 
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Fascinating !

This could mean a whole new generation of
photovoltaics, lasers and more ! :smile:

Live long and prosper.
 
I was asking about something like this a few weeks ago. Glad to hear they can do it. Can someone say "X-Ray specs"? :p
 
The theory and computer modelling is nice, however there is a lot more research to be done before we can begin to observe these effects in practice. Fabricating such devices is the 1st big challenge.

Frequency shifting is not the only thing that Photonic Crystals are capable of, many experts beleieve that Photonic Crystals will form the basis for Optical Integrated Circuits when their potential is fully realized.
 
cool...

From computer simulations, the team found that shock waves passing through a crystal alter its properties as they compress it. For example, a crystal that normally allows red light through but reflects green light might become transparent to green light and reflect red light instead.

wow... if i am understanding this correctly, could it bounce back a frequency of light that the human eye cannot percieve thereby "cloaking" it?
 
Very interesting would be to shift radiation invisible to eye so that we can actually peek how it looks like.
 
Originally posted by wimms
Very interesting would be to shift radiation invisible to eye so that we can actually peek how it looks like.

dont we already do this everyday? it known as a "false color image"
 
Isn't that what the predator used to be invisable?
 


Originally posted by maximus
wow... if i am understanding this correctly, could it bounce back a frequency of light that the human eye cannot percieve thereby "cloaking" it?
No. It would simply register as the abscence of light - ie. black. For real invisibility as we think of it, we need to mask with lights fitting in with the background.
 
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invisibility

Invisibility could work if you used the material on both sides to increase the frequency of the light to make passing though your body easy for the light rays but your bones are harder to see thought
Ex. X-rays. Even so, at a distance it would seem to make you invisible. There will most likely be some distortion of sight due to the change in the index of light between the crystal and the environment and your body. I know little about these crystals so I am just assuming they would work like glass and you can have it in a layer to coat the object.
 
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Hmm... interesting... that might just work... You mean use the x ray as a way of transmitting the image from one side of your body to another?

Apply for military funding immediately! :smile:
 
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The manipulation of light in this manner can only possibly work on micron scales, since the method relies on Bragg reflections from adjacent lattice planes in the crystal. The mechanism of the doppler shift (phonon interactions) could not possibly preserve any image that is input into the crystal in the first place. You put light in, you get light out of a different wavelength (colour), simple. Not as impressive as X-ray vision, but to laser and optical physicists it is a totally unprecedented degree of control.

Also, the original article claims that this process in 100% efficient, which is not entirely accurate. It is possibly 100% efficient insofar as you get as much light out as you put in, however energy is still required to generate the acoustic shock waves that provide the effect in the first place.
 

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