Balancing Redox Reactions: How to Determine Half Reactions and Oxidation Numbers

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The discussion revolves around balancing a redox reaction involving iron and dichromate ions. Participants explore how to determine half-reactions and oxidation numbers, with a focus on the correct balancing of the equation and the role of protons in the reaction.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about balancing the equation Fe2+ + Cr2O72- → Fe3+ + Cr3+ and questions the correctness of their initial attempt.
  • Another participant provides a half-reaction for iron: Fe2+ → Fe3+ + e-, but struggles with the reaction involving Cr2O7 and notes the absence of acid in the reaction.
  • A different participant suggests that the dichromate might be represented as 2CrO42-, indicating ongoing uncertainty about the correct species involved.
  • One participant acknowledges that another's response clarified their confusion regarding the notation and balancing with protons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the correct balancing of the reaction or the appropriate representation of the dichromate species. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the presence of acid in the reaction and the correct balancing of charges on both sides of the equation. The discussion reflects various interpretations of the chemical species involved.

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I'm not sure how to balance this equation with regards to the half reaction and electrons, as well as the elements:

Fe+2 + Cr2O-27--->Fe+3 + Cr+3

Right now, I've gotten this far, though I don't know if it's the right track:

Fe+2 + 2Cr+72O-27--->Fe+3 + 4Cr+3 + 7O-22

What should I do next?
 
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My first post was totally wrong so here's a revamp.

Fe+2 + Cr2O-27--->Fe+3 + Cr+3

Ok well here's one part..

[tex]Fe^{2+} \rightarrow Fe^{3+} + e^-[/tex]

I can't figure out what happens with the Cr2O7. It usually reacts with acid, like this:

[tex]Cr_2O_7 ^{2-} + 14H^+ + 6e^- \rightarrow 2Cr^{3+} + 7H_2O[/tex]

But there's no acid so that ain't it.

Another thing is that I'm not sure your second equation works out.

Fe+2 + 2Cr+72O-27--->Fe+3 + 4Cr+3 + 7O-22

The charges are not the same on both sides.
 
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Maybe it should be 2CrO4(2-)? I noticed that on a website...Still can't figure it out though. It's pissing me off. :mad:
 
ShawnD, that answered my question exactly. I wasn't sure how the notation worked, as far as just throwing the correct number of H+ and so forth.
Thanks. :wink:
 

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