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Airplane drops a package (relative motion)

by southernbelle
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southernbelle
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Sep22-08, 07:57 AM
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1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
A plane flying at a speed of 275 m/s at an altitude of 3000 m drops a package. The plane doesn't change its direction or speed and there is no wind resistance.
a) Where does the package hit the ground relative to the point of release?
b) Where does the package hit the ground relative to the moving airplane?


2. Relevant equations
R = sqrt A2 + B2


3. The attempt at a solution
a. Well I know that it would land directly under it because there is no wind resistance. But I don't know how to come up with that answer.

b. I did
R = 2752 +30002 and took the square root.
I came up with 3,013m.
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LowlyPion
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Sep22-08, 09:00 AM
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Quote Quote by southernbelle View Post
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
A plane flying at a speed of 275 m/s at an altitude of 3000 m drops a package. The plane doesn't change its direction or speed and there is no wind resistance.
a) Where does the package hit the ground relative to the point of release?
b) Where does the package hit the ground relative to the moving airplane?


2. Relevant equations
R = sqrt A2 + B2


3. The attempt at a solution
a. Well I know that it would land directly under it because there is no wind resistance. But I don't know how to come up with that answer.

b. I did
R = 2752 +30002 and took the square root.
I came up with 3,013m.
How long did the package take to hit the ground from 3km?
southernbelle
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Sep22-08, 09:15 AM
P: 35
I did

Yf = Yi + Via + 1/2at2

0= 3000 + 0 + -4.9t2

t=25 seconds?

eyvhgi557r
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Sep22-08, 09:24 AM
P: 7
Airplane drops a package (relative motion)

Try;

Time for package to hit the ground.

3000m / -9.8m/s^2 = 306.12s^2 = 17.5s


Position of the plane at t = 17.5s, (time it takes for the package to hit the ground.)

17.5s x 275m/s = 4812.5m

Position of the package at t = 17.5s

Xf = Xi + Vi(t) + 1/2a(t)^2
Xf = 0 + 275/m/s(17.5s) + 0(17.5s)
Xf = 4812.5m

That's how I did it. Hope that helps!
southernbelle
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Sep22-08, 09:36 AM
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Ok, so
0=3000 + 0 + -4.9t^2

And I got 7.5 seconds?
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Sep22-08, 09:51 AM
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Quote Quote by southernbelle View Post
I did

Yf = Yi + Via + 1/2at2

0= 3000 + 0 + -4.9t2

t=25 seconds?
24.74 seconds, mostly close enough.

Now you know how fast it was going horizontally, so given the time and velocity, how far across the ground before the bomb hits? Horizontal speed times time perhaps?
southernbelle
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Sep22-08, 09:52 AM
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Okay, thanks.
But how did you get

3000 divided by 9.8t2?

What formula did you plug those numbers in to?
southernbelle
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Sep22-08, 09:57 AM
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Quote Quote by LowlyPion View Post
24.74 seconds, mostly close enough.

Now you know how fast it was going horizontally, so given the time and velocity, how far across the ground before the bomb hits? Horizontal speed times time perhaps?
So it would be 275m/s x 24.74s?
I got 6,803.5

That seems like such a big number and it ends up in m/s2
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Sep22-08, 10:05 AM
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Quote Quote by southernbelle View Post
So it would be 275m/s x 24.74s?
I got 6,803.5

That seems like such a big number and it ends up in m/s2
6804 m.

Not the way I look at the units it's not m/s2

Now you have the altitude and the ground distance so you can calculate your displacement as you initially tried.

If the bomb hit on the ground at V*t where is the plane at this instant?

Edit: The number isn't all that far if you consider the speed is over 600 mph.
eyvhgi557r
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Sep22-08, 10:15 AM
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Quote Quote by southernbelle View Post
Okay, thanks.
But how did you get

3000 divided by 9.8t2?

What formula did you plug those numbers in to?
The package fell 3000m at an acceleration of -9.8m/s^2 with a Vi of 0. Just divide the displacement (3000m) by a = -9,8m/s^2 and it give you the time it took the package to hit the ground in s^2. Then take the square root to obtain s.

d = a x t^2
3000m = -9.8m/s^2 x t^2
3000m / -9.8m/s^2 = t^2
306.12s^2 = t^2 = 17.5s
southernbelle
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Sep22-08, 10:28 AM
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Quote Quote by LowlyPion View Post
6804 m.

Not the way I look at the units it's not m/s2

Now you have the altitude and the ground distance so you can calculate your displacement as you initially tried.

If the bomb hit on the ground at V*t where is the plane at this instant?

Edit: The number isn't all that far if you consider the speed is over 600 mph.
Okay, thank you!
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Sep22-08, 10:31 AM
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Quote Quote by eyvhgi557r View Post
The package fell 3000m at an acceleration of -9.8m/s^2 with a Vi of 0. Just divide the displacement (3000m) by a = -9,8m/s^2 and it give you the time it took the package to hit the ground in s^2. Then take the square root to obtain s.

d = a x t^2
3000m = -9.8m/s^2 x t^2
3000m / -9.8m/s^2 = t^2
306.12s^2 = t^2 = 17.5s
D = 1/2 *a*t2


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